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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (11 children)

Why do people buy Samsung bullshit? Honestly. Weren't the multiple products known to catch on fire enough? No, you need more than "products might catch fire" and "everything they make is enshittified to the max"?

Ever since my Samsung Galaxy S5 got an update that fucked it in every single way, I decided that there are no exceptions to the shittiness they work into their products.

Fuck Samsung. Stop buying their awful, overpriced, bloated, half-functional, fuck-ass engineered e-waste. They might even be worse than apple and that's saying something.

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 18 points 5 months ago (5 children)

For Android phones at least (especially in the US), there aren't many great alternatives. Regardless of what you think of Samsung and their bloatware, Galaxy phones have fewer glitches and far better customization options than Google Pixels.

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Maybe stop thinking that you absolutely need a flagship phone with the latest SoC to browse Lemmy and marketplace and you'll find there are more options.

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Maybe stop thinking everyone uses their phones as glorified forum browsers. I mean that's how I use mine, but I know for a fact there are plenty of people who expect plenty more from their shit.

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I don't think that anyway, but if you'd like to offer some suggestions that support 5G bands 41, 71, and 260/261 then I'm all ears.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

This. Every phone upgrade I sit down and look at all the options. Generally I'd love to have a phone with physical keyboard which is at least to a degree business oriented. Before my last upgrade I was keen on Blackberry Key3, since Key2 fit the bill so much. Then they decided not to make phones anymore and I was again swayed to Samsung's side with their Fold offering. Now I have fold with pen and bluetooth keyboard which sort of does the work. Pen is really handy for signing documents and annotating work my developers do.

I am not brand loyal at all, but somehow the best offering is always from Samsung.

[–] mihnt@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Galaxy phones have fewer glitches and far better customization options than Google Pixels.

What? I ain't trying to praise google here, because fuck 'em, but what on earth are you about with customization and glitches?

I've had the Pixel 5 and 7 pro so far and I've wanted to stomp on those phones way less than any phones I've ever had from samsung.

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[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They are definitely niche appeal, but take a look at Unihertz. They make some phones that diverge from the current trends with flagship phones.

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The problem with Uniherz is the lack of 5G network support. I'm on T-Mobile and only 1 of the 4 bands are supported by Uniherz phones, so that means limited connectivity and no mmwave support.

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's true. Part of why it's a niche appeal.

In my case, I was having a hard time finding a reasonably sized phone. All the major manufacturers really jumped into the phablet trend (150mm x 70mm is where I start to feel like a phone is too big).

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hear you. My personal limit is 155mm x 74mm and even I were willing to overlook the lack of connectivity, so many of the Google/Samsung alternative Android phones are just too goddamn big these days.

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Right? All I want for Christmas is a phone that fits in my hand. Apparently, that's WAY too much to ask for.

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They exist. They're just not well known. I love my LG Velvet. It's as unobtrusive as a phone of this processing capability can get. Just about fully stock Android with a few minor apps from my carrier preloaded. It's about 5yrs old now and not a bit slower than when I bought it. Decent camera, too.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 months ago

LG dropped out of the smartphone market entirely. I wish I could still get their phones, with an AUX port and expandable micro-SD card storage.

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

They exist. They're just not well known.

Really? Which others support US 5G network frequencies apart from Samsung, Google, and maybe Motorola? LG have been dead in the water for some time and their software support is atrocious.

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Idk what you mean by that. My Velvet has 5G...

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It only supports sub6 5G frequencies. That means no mmwave.

I'm on the go a lot and my area has good >6GHz coverage. I prioritize connectivity above pretty much all other factors, so I'm not really interested in devices that don't support all the frequency bands used by my carrier.

[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Their SSDs have been pretty reliable for me at least. Knock on wood

I don't buy anything else from them though.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fuck! I forgot that I have a few of those... I guess I can expect to replace them or put out a fire in the near future

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Seeing as RAM does not contain lithium batteries, I think you'll be good lol.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hey if anyone can make it catch fire, they can. How the fuck did they manage to catch washers on fire??

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

660,000 washers were recalled because 51 had issues. That's 0.007%...I think you'll be alright.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Acceptable rate of washers catching fire: 0.0000000%

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Any electrical device can catch fire.

  • 2009 - Crosley®, Frigidaire®, Kelvinator®, Kenmore®, Wascomat®, and White-Westinghouse® clothes washers were recalled due to an internal defect in the washer's drain pump can cause heat to build up, causing a fire
  • 2016 - GE models WPGT9350, WPGT9360 and WPGT9150 recalled after receiving 71 reports of internal washer components burning or catching fire.
  • 2014 & 2020 - Whirlpool recalled a series washing machine models in a safety recall due to fires
  • 2023 - Frigidaire recalled 13,600 due to fire hazard

 

I'm not trying to defend these companies by any means, and you are correct, the acceptable rate of washer fires is 0, but literally any electronic device can cause fires without exception. Don't let statistical anomalies cloud your perception.

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 8 points 5 months ago

Because they focus on curb appeal. Their phones and TVs and appliances look pretty in the store so people buy them. It's not til you get them home that you begin to notice that they are trash. The next problem is that people may not even realize that the competition is better. If you buy a Samsung device knowing only that it looks good in the store, you probably aren't the type to research, so you think that's just how it is: Modern phones have weird confusing UIs, modern TVs have weird menu lag and ads, modern appliances just don't last the way they used to.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm with you. Their stuff has sucked for a while.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

With Apple, I hate so many things about them, but I can kind of understand why people buy their shit. I just can't wrap my head around it with Samsung. It seems like it all comes down to brand recognition. I don't know.

[–] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I will never again buy a Samsung product after they refused to honour the warranty claim on my dishwasher. It had a legitimate design defect, I alerted them well within the warranty period, and I provided all the appropriate receipts. They just plain ignored my complaint while putting on a contrite facade in every interaction.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

That's awful. Sorry that happened to you

[–] omxxi@feddit.de 4 points 5 months ago

I have banned Samsung from my list of trusted electronics since long time ago, two cell phones that strangely started to behave erratic and slow exactly when the warranty expired. I don't want to buy more programmed obsolescence BS.

[–] mihnt@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Their PC monitors are still solid. At least with that you're just getting the screen. The second they add shit I'm out.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They're really not. Brick-and-barrel-pin power connectors, panels that shit the bed with regularity, and a few "smart" monitor models. Other brands are more reliable imo.

[–] mihnt@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I have 8 samsung monitors of all types in my house and the youngest one is 3 years old now. I've only had 1 failure out of their panels in over 15 years. (Which turned out to be an easy fix.) Anecdotal, yes, but maybe you can enlighten me?

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Wide variety of dead/dying backlights, as well as malfunctioning video ports (flickering, static, etc. with no discernable cause, no matter the cable/device); extra/ultra-wides seemed especially unstable. The curved ones do not have serviceable backlights so they're electronic waste. Source: larger scale IT 😬

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

My monitor literally had the screen fall out 6 months in. Took a total of 5 months of daily bullshit calls with them to get a replacement

[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Can confirm. I had an S6 and hated it. Sold it early to get away from it. I've never done that before or since. My kid needed a tablet and so I got him a Samsung as it was cheap. Same thing. Bloated to hell. He also has a smart TV which again is Samsung. Even that is bloated. I'll never buy Samsung again. I can't understand why they are so popular. I guess advertising works.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To be honest, with a company as massive and diverse of Samsung, you are guaranteed to have multiple products that catch fire in one way or another. Samsung makes up 20% of South Korea's entire economy, that's the monolithic scale of Samsung.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are you implying that it's just normal for products to catch fire? Unless we are talking about a once a century event related to cars, grills, ovens, etc, I can't say I agree.

Phones aren't supposed to catch fire. Ever. Washing machines also should never catch fire. It is not normal or okay

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's certainly not normal but it's frankly inevitable. All it takes is some fraying wire, failing insulation, manufacturing defect on the PCB or components and something slightly flammable nearby (usually the product itself). That and how much stuff people usually have plugged in, somebody is going to experience a fire eventually.

Regulations on Chinese garbage are practically non existent. There are countless cheap chargers that will start fires. One nearly caused one in my home as a kid.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

And yet I doubt anyone has heard of a washer (or phone) catching fire that wasn't made by Samsung. Why are you defending them?

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not, it's just that a lot of electronics and particularly bad ones catch fire.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Well I'm not sure what you call a lot, but I'd expect the percentage of cheap knockoff garbage to still be pretty low but I expect a huge company like Samsung to be much, much closer to zero.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Can you recommend a manufacturer who doesn't display ads? It doesn't help to single out one company if they're all doing it.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What? The device has very little to do with ads. I block ads on Android with ddg app privacy protection and Firefox + ublock origin

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Your entire post is calling out Samsung, but don't smart TV manufacturers show ads?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

How was I supposed to know what kind of device you meant? You weren't specific at all. Literally buy any other TV and then just never connect the WiFi. Done.

[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

My old 2015 Android TV doesn't. Neither does my LG. But the LG could be because I always disagree to all consent message or because I push all DNS traffic through AdGuard and NextDNS.

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I've bought 2 Sony android TVs in the last 5 years (one 5 years ago and one a couple of weeks ago), both are connected to the internet. Neither shows ads.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 0 points 5 months ago

My Note 4 had a Bixby button. I never bought a Samsung phone again.