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Disabling ads is easy, don't connect it to the internet ever
Any way to connect it to an internal network so I can still cast from local devices? Otherwise it's just going to exist plugged into a laptop.
Something like a chromecast would be the easiest solution.
Me personally, I just like having a media pc hooked up to my tv. I bought an amazon fire tv cause it was fairly cheap for 4k and its never been hooked up to the internet.
Just watch them litter those with ads too
It is a problem, my shield tv started having ads on the home page, but I was able to install a new launcher on it to fix that.
Overall having a media player plugged in to a disconnected tv is the way to go. It is easier to replace a chromecast than the whole tv.
What launcher are you using? I haven't found one I really like yet.
I think I am using the wolf launcher. I have it set up pretty minimally. 95% of the time I just use it to launch Jellyfin.
FLauncher is decent
I've been having a seperate media box connected to my TV for decades now, and if I want to get support for newer video encoding protocols (which happens maybe every 8 years or so) I can just change the media box, which is far cheaper than getting a whole new TV just because you need the hardware decoder chip for a newer video encoding.
The dumb part of the TV easilly lasts decades.
If they do there'll be a media center raspberry pi within a week.
Depends on your router. Some have the ability to disable internet access to single devices while leaving their internal network access intact.
You probably can give it a static ip through your router and block any access to the internet for it. Could even set up pihole to block the ads from coming in to any device. That said, it's possible the TV has built in ads or error messages to show in place of the ads when offline/blocked, or may just not even work if offline for longer than x minutes/hours/days
I think a PiHole wouldn't work cause the ads come from the same place as the videos
Samsung, AFAIK, doesn't have a streaming service so that doesn't matter.
We weren't talking about ADs on some streaming service, we're talking about ADs displayed on the TV from Samsung themselves
Also, AD proxying with content isn't always guaranteed, I've seen YT do it ofc
I was reading “Active Directory” and it made it all the more glorious.
Not sure about Samsung devices but I've got a few Rokus and my pihole does a great job of blocking ads.
They still push "promotions" into the menus and every month I have to go through and turn them off, but I don't see ads in the UI.
I have an old Intel nuc that I could slap a hard drive in. It wouldn't have to handle all traffic, right?
That should be fine, most people use raspberry pi's as a pihole server so a much shouldn't have any problems handling it
Only DNS lookups. And it's lightweight enough you could have an original NUC, set up a pi hole LXC on proxmox, and have plenty of power left over for other tasks.
That will definitely work for a Pi-Hole or AdGuard Home. If it has 2 network controllers, you could even set it up as a router and firewall with OPNsense. That would allow you to do even cooler stuff like DNS packet redirection for devices/applications that have a hardcoded DNS server.
That's how I handled my "smart" TV - I had a spare minipc from my old homelab, threw Linux on it and plugged it into the HDMI port.
It has never connected to my network, despite the BestBuy employee insisting it would need firmware updates for better picture.
Good fucking lord.
Omg, that reminds me of a time when a retail employee insisted that installing Linux on a particular machine would rock crashing the hard drive. This was, oh, maybe 2006 or so.
I did not buy a new computer that day.
if it gives you the option you could try setting the DNS settings to something that doesn't exist.
Maybe if you give it its own vlan? Idk tho
You can probably get a DNS based ad blocker and configure your router DHCP to assign it to devices.
You may use it as a display and connect it to a Raspberry Pi (or other mini-PC) with Kodi on it.
Smart TVs can also scan the input from their hdmi ports and relay that to advertisers.
Except if you don't connect the TV to the internet, but use it as a huge display only.
...that's what I've been doing. I've accepted my fate
Sure, break it's routing. You can give it a fake DNS server (like a pihole that blocks everything), you could set up routing rules that block everything not addressed in the network ip range, there's a ton of ways I can think to do it off the top of my head. It might require some tinkering though
Eventually they are going to require Internet on all TVs, it's only a matter of time
Then I make my own mainboard.
Good thing I saw that pcbwaydotcom ad.
I'm afraid reverse engineering proprietary internal connection is not an easy feat.
it's standard here in sweden to deliver TV over internet these days, TV can fuck itself sideways and die
Serious question: what’s the mechanism of this? I can think of a few it might be but I honestly don’t know:
I’ve heard some will seek out open wifi in the area. I wouldn’t be surprised if they start having cellular data capability soon just for the ads and reporting back to corporate.
"fun" fact: most modern cars have over a dozen sim cards because various components relay statistics, etc. to their respective manufacturers.
yeah, “fun” indeed
Don’t buy a Samsung tv is even better. There software gets worse every year. Recent tvs now can’t change inputs when first powered on. They also need to detect a device to change the input.
At this point, just get a cheaper non-smart TV
They don't sell good TVs that aren't Smart anymore. You could get a monitor but that comes with size, featureset and price limitations.
Even monitors are getting “smart TV” features these days… ostensibly so they can push non-consensual ads there, too.
I was looking at monitors recently, they do have Samsung "smart" monitors. That's gonna be a fuck no from me. I hope we don't see everything trend that way.
I'm leaning toward a projector hooked up to a mini pc for my next living room 'tv'.
I only ever use mine for movie nights or special occasions anyways so it's always dark when I use it.
Any other regular viewing I usually do on my pc.
Where are you buying a non-smart TV in 2024? Genuinely asking for some links to something bigger than 32" and that is not a $3,000 "commercial display panel".
For me it was craigslist. I spent $20 on a 32" Vizio that came with a useless Comcast remote so then I spent $6 online on a replacement Vizio remote. I did see some larger dumb tvs listed for more money as well.
An more expensive dumb TV, actually. They want you to buy the thing that makes passive income so its cheaper.