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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But isn’t that a big problem?

Yes.

It's made into an even bigger problem by the fact that the only third party candidates which consistently run for national office, the Libertarians and Greens, are both deeply unserious parties which focus most of their resources on making a ridiculous play for the presidency every four years instead of building up local support first.

[–] instantnudeln@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not all small parties that I see on the Wikipedia list even run in the elections? That's weird, makes it look like they aren't even trying. I think they should attend symbolic. Like "hey we are here. We exist" Just being on the Ballot also makes a difference.

But yes, as you say, building up local support should be the first step. My Party lost the seat in the European Parliament, but we actually had many local Elections at the same time, and local we actually won new seats in some City Councils. I hope the people that got that seat will keep up good work and also speak about it, because most people don't even notice anything that happens in their own Councils. That way, we maybe get more votes from people out of that city in bigger elections.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 6 points 5 months ago

candidates have to get on the ballot in a seperate process for every state. It was actually a big thing this year as a snafu with biden on the ohio ballot https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/columbus/why-joe-biden-could-be-excluded-from-ohios-ballot-and-what-is-to-come/. And not voting for the lesser of the two evils can let the greater evil win. bush and trump both lost the popular vote but got in and bush famously got in due to a court decision about hanging chads in florida. https://www.npr.org/2018/11/12/666812854/the-florida-recount-of-2000-a-nightmare-that-goes-on-haunting . So yes a few american not votes gave us the iraq war.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Not all small parties that I see on the Wikipedia list even run in the elections? That’s weird, makes it look like they aren’t even trying. I think they should attend symbolic. Like “hey we are here. We exist” Just being on the Ballot also makes a difference.

Most of them don't. Many of them that do run are only state-level parties, not national. Third parties are very splintered in this country, other than the Libertarians and Greens, who, like I said, aren't very serious. Only 4 out of 47 seats in my state, for example, were contested by the Libertarians and Greens.