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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The "tankie bubble" is Lemmy. Lemmy.ml doesn't defederate from larger instances, I see almost everything.

[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The “tankie bubble” is Lemmy.

Not so. The tankiest instances are lemmygrad and hexbear, while I think sh.itjust.works is neocon or lib at best, not to mention nazi "exploding heads" so we have a whole spectrum. I think Lemmy.ml had tolerable tankiness, but since lemmygrad and hexbear were rightly defederated from most instances, the tankies and wumaos are poisoning Lemmy.ml and much of fediverse with genocide denialism, authoritarian propaganda, etc.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Both Hexbear and Lemmygrad are largely self-sufficient, some people likely have alts but the idea that they are "poisoning" Lemmy.ml is silly. Marxists have always been here.

[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, Marxists have been on Lemmy.ml and this is a good thing. But there is difference between Marxists and supporters of authoritarian regimes like China, Russia or North Korea, who are denialists of genocides like Bucha, Katyn, Tiananmen, etc. and who are cheap wumao/govnoyed propagandists.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Suggesting people read Marx gets you called a Tankie. I have even seen Anarchists get called Tankie. The term is meaningless at this point, and people attach a bunch of scary baggage to it as a way to pretend everything left of Liberalism is tankie.

[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

The term is wide and sometimes misinterpreted, but actually not meaningless, since tankies are mainly associated with marxism-leninism (maybe sometimes maoism) and whitewashing of regimes as China, USSR, or North Korea. Same as the term "woke", which is even wider and horribly overused. Thus, I wouldn't call a western postmarxist leftist a tankie, and a lib or neocon probably would call this person a woke one :)