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[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Stalin and Mao were pretty mainstream.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ok, two authoritarian leaders the modern left finds pretty abhorrent and regularly repudiates. You might as well say that Lincoln represents the modern right if you're going that way.

You know what I meant. A modern, mainstream leftist—think Bernie or AOC, or leftwards—calling for mass murder or policies that would plainly result in mass murder.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Also, people forget that there is a left right axis, and a vertical Authoritarian/Anarchy axis.

Authoritarian thought is not left or right biased.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Indeed, but that's step two after the other person realizes that they're just saying "lol boths sidez samesies" with no basis for that opinion except enlightened centrism. (So never)

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean Biden supports Israeli genocide... Or is he a conservative these days? Can't keep up with imaginary American bullshit.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Non sequiturs are not answers to the question I asked. Biden is not left of Bernie or AOC.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're like this meme where lefties enemy number one is another lefty (: Everyone is wrong but you. Of course.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Who said that? I asked you to explain your position. I never said anyone was bad.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Prove it. But first, answer my question. Trying to divert the conversation won't disguise the fact that you're making false equivalences based upon nothing.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Prove what? You're talking bull shit and just wiggling your way around, lol. Grow up.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Prove...anything, honestly. Prove that I called anyone bad (I didn't, in any comment). Prove that there are mainstream leftists currently advocating for mass murder. Prove that you're not just making up everything you're saying based on "feels." Grow up? I'm not the one pretending that my opinions are more important than the facts.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're constantly contradicting yourself and shifting the goalposts. Grow up.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How can I have contradicted myself when I haven't made a single assertion? I've literally only been asking you to explain your statement.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I have been. That's why I'm saying what I'm saying.

Do you think I'm someone else?

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Bro, obviously I have no idea what you're talking about. So either give me a link or shut up in an acknowledgement that you're trying to get me to admit something and you actually have no argument.

[–] Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

And this is how politicians manage to confuse people by conflating politics with economics, which are two different scales. You can be an economic leftist (say by supporting health care) without being an authoritarian. Same with the right.