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[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Capitalism only knows how to find the worse solution to fuck everything up

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Meh it's not capitalism ruining things here, it's simply not the solution cuz:

If kudzu were hard to propagate and high in demand, people would go to the forests and forage it till it's no longer a problem. But kudzu is really easy to prooagate, so if it easier to grow it like another crop, it's not cost effective for most people to go to a fucking forest, so besides some artisanal harvesting by landless people, kudzu would remain a plague.

To actually solve this you need a Forestry Ministry or whatever launching a big campaign to save the forests, and part of that effort should be clear this invasive plant, which is a pain in the ass to do cuz you gotta go and kill it specifically in an area that is annoying to go and you gotta go there season after seadon, year after year,vuz the thing grows back easily.

Again with the R. ulmifolius example: it's a (delicious) invasive thorny bush plaguing mountainous forests, but it's also really easy to grow in any other terrain and we have non-thorny cultivars. So besides forest fires and pissed off hikers carrying a machete in their trips to clear trails, R. ulmifolius has no counter.

Hell, R ulmifolius probably benefits from forest fires.

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I see Kudzu here were I am everywhere so I often think about what needs to be done about it. I appreciate your thoughts on this. I agree with state intervention and a forest ministry. It's amazing what a state can do when if actually has the political will :O

To "save face" I'll still relate it to capitalism through our bourgeoisie class having no ability or desire to do anything useful or good for the world except make line go up something something

I'll take a look at R ulmifolius. I love plants and this sounds like a good rabbit hole for the next hour or so!

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

My bad forgot the endsign "moreover capitalism must be destroyed"

R ulmifolious isn't that of a big deal, Rosa rubiginosa in the other hand is a bigger problem in patagonia specifically and every product I tried made with it sucks ass

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

R ulmifolious

My brother in communism you can just say "blackberries" so people don't have to google your dead language

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Akchually according to google is "elmleaf blackberry" or "thornless blackberry" but the fuckers growing here are a solutely not-thornless

Plus that's the point of scientific names,for everyone to know what species is one actually talking about

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

If you said blackberry I'd have immediately known what you were talking about though

but hey it's fine, i'm here, it's blackberries everyone, big thorny blackberries

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But what if you thought old smartphones were growing wild out of their original ecosystem

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

idk but I would try my best not to shame such a person 😔