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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by eleitl@lemmy.ml to c/collapse@lemmy.ml

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Because of admin interference with the content https://lemmy.ml/modlog/16033 and disciplinary actions we obviously can't stay here.

We've set up shop on http://lemm.ee/c/collapse !collapse@lemm.ee so please update your subscription if you intend to continue to follow this community.

At some point this community will be mothballed, unless wabooti@lemmy.ml wants to continue taking care of it.

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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Gosh, what a write up.

But ok. Admins got uncomfortable and told the mods that if they disagree to just move elsewhere and that's what's happening.

eleitl does seem to one of the more frequent posters so I do get their cred but their responses leaves a lot to be desired and I'll be interested to see how people move.

Because it wasn't that necessary as of the moment. As the argument of population control is one I think not at all worth having for many of reasons, such as, you just can't do much about it! And it will become reality easy enough if it becomes mandatory and that's sad enough.

But I guess if we find ourselves truly not welcome here anymore than it seems we would just have to move with you guys.

[–] doom_and_gloom@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

As the argument of population control is one I think not at all worth having for many of reasons, such as, you just can’t do much about it!

I've often argued a similar line. This topic is notorious for bringing out bad-faith posters trying to shape the narrative. Sometimes it seems hardly worth discussing to me as well. Especially among redditors which is what I was used to for many years. But to not be able to discuss it at all is too much for me as a mod, especially when those who would take advantage of us discuss it freely.

And it will become reality easy enough if it becomes mandatory and that’s sad enough.

My concern is that there are still different ways that this can all go down, and that we aren't charting towards handling the crisis in a wise and humane manner. We're basically blindly following capitalists into the void. And acting "naively" (following systemic biases) is not moral or ethical in our position. People are already dying of exposure today, in our local communities and around the world. It is the most disadvantaged that suffers most and it will continue to be that way unless something is changed.

But I guess if we find ourselves truly not welcome here anymore than it seems we would just have to move with you guys.

Whatever works best for everyone involved.