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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 241 points 5 months ago (4 children)

It is hard to believe this moron has a chance of being president again. We are a doomed country.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 112 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Don’t let the media and talking heads convince you of anything.

There are a great majority of people who want nothing to do with Trump, his Russian bootlicking or any of his other xenophobic hate.

Just vote.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 49 points 5 months ago (2 children)

But the system is rigged so that a relatively small minority of morons can fuck shit up for everybody else. So yeah, guys, vote like your life depends on it because it literally does.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And those of us who are voting and get elected will, and have been, continue to stop vote rigging, jerrymandering, and voter intimidation.

Voting doesn’t end at the end of the presidential election. It involves your local elections too. Especially anything to do with your local educational system.

[–] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's not a relatively small minority. Trump has lost the popular vote every time he's run, but not by huge margins. There are a lot of people that legitimately want Trump as a president, and many more that view him as the lesser of two evils. Don't underestimate that and definitely don't let down your guard.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Only about 30% of people vote in the US and half of that is 15%. So, pretty small.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Exactly, and even if it might seem like your single vote doesn't matter, you would be surprised. trump won in 2016 because disinformation on social media convinced people that their vote won't change anything and Hillary will win anyway.

Also vote at least every 2 years, it isn't just the president that matters, the Congress is important too

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Congress is more imortant than the president by the looks from an outsider.

How is the house reps elected in the USA?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

By district, which is all the voters in a smaller geographic area. House Reps are up for re election every 2 years. The intent of the House is to give more representatives to states with higher populations, so for example New York has 26 representatives while Kansas only has 4.

However, instead of purely representing population, the number of House reps has been capped at 435, which weighs heavily in favor of less populated (Republican) states. If that cap was removed, Democrats would have a permanent lock on the House.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago
[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

He's the Republican nominee. What do you mean by letting "the media and talking heads convince you of anything?" Based on the previous two presidential elections, he's got a 50/50 shot which says a lot about his opponent.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 2 points 5 months ago

If polling aggregate predictions means anything, then he actually has a higher chance of winning than losing.

Source 1

Source 2

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

In what world does the number of candidates have anything to do with hundred of millions of peoples independent votes.

This is just bad stats

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago

The world where out of the 400 RNC candidates filed through the FEC, Trump was the one that people have been voting for in the primaries by a landslide.

There were 161 Million total registered voters in 2022, and 335 Million total USA Population, so even if tens of millions of people, a comparatively small fraction, vote for Donald Trump then he can very easily win this election.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In this world. He already won one election and came very close to winning the second back in 2020. Combine that with yet another weak-ass Dem candidate being the only other option and you have a recipe where it's entirely possible for him to win again.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You’re comparing apples to oranges here. The circumstances have changed since 2020 and to ignore 4 years of hearings, charges, additional threats (much less vague now) and libertarian distain for trump is significantly different from what it was when he ran in 2016, and when he had that momentum in 2020 (Covid year, don’t forget)

Donald Trump is going to bite the curb this election and I’ll bet you a bunch of people still vote for RFK.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 1 points 5 months ago

And now he’s been charged with 30+ felonies.

#LockHimUp

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this sounds a lot like pollsters claiming that Clinton had a 99% chance of winning in 2016.

Biden seems to be going out of his way to alienate progressive voters and conservative voters will never vote for him. The 'fence sitters' who don't pay attention to politics will simply see inflation and high prices and blame whomever is currently holding office due to all the conditioning and rhetoric they hear regarding it.

Any election should see a guy like Trump defeated in a landslide, but that's not the reality we live in and the guy running against him is doing such a poor job that Trump might actually win again.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 1 points 5 months ago

I agree with your final paragraph. He isn’t a perfect candidate.

But I don’t think there will ever be a perfect candidate and when they’re running against a literal fascist dictator, I know who I will vote for. I’ve said this before but a primarily 2-party system is dangerously naïve. Simplifying the insanely complex reality that is the US into 2 options is stupid. Not to mention how much it alienates minorities (of all types not just race, religion, sex)

How are we to represent down to the minority level via a popular-vote. It doesn’t make sense to me.

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 28 points 5 months ago

It was hard to believe the last time…

[–] tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know.

I'm perplexed honestly.

I live in italy and here too government took a steep turn to the right since last elections.

It is like the most roborantly bamboozling idiocy someone from a stage can scream the more he gets applauded as the folks' hero for speaking their unsung voices.

On the other hand if you try to build an organic and critical dialogue you only get yawned away as utterly boring.

I don't think it is the ones screaming from their stages being the morons, well not the most moron at least, but instead they are those who give their precious votes, hard conquered from their ancestors who gift them with a life in a democracy, to these unambiguously unmistakable frauds, and who hide in the self-obliviousness of the guilty conscience for the vote they have cast their incapability of admitting their own deep existential self-inadequacy.

[–] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago

Lots of people are incredibly stupid. Many of those stupid people are also selfish and mean. It will always be easy to appeal to those people by blaming all their problems on others. Until science figures out a way to force on the empathy parts of our brains, we'll go through these cycles of stupid people cheering on fascism.

[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

If he wasn't running, republicans would put some other gullible fucking idiot in office.