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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So how many elections are you expecting that the Dems must lose in order to start fielding candidates you like,

Mate, I'm one person. Not millions.

It's not about my personal morals and how much genocide I'm ok supporting.

It's a lot easier to change Biden's mind about how he governs in 6 months than change millions of people's minds about how he governs, right?

Unless you think Biden just won't listen to his constituents even if it means letting trump back into the White House.

Do you think he doesn't give that much of a fuck about America?

Why be mad at a social media account, when you're apparently not mad at Biden? The one individual with the power to easily prevent trump from winning.

All he has to do, is listen to his voters.

If he can't do that now, why does he deserve either of our votes?

[–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You seem a little daft. So I'll help explain in easier language.
Trump, bad.
Biden, bad.
If Biden win, u get 4 years to protest and complain about policy until your voice is maybe heard, and either way then see new candidate options.
If Trump win, u no get chance for new candidate after 4 years, cuz he's a fucking psychopath and won't give up power. And solidification of more and more power will entail recruitment of more and more zealots which is a path he has shown he is willing to take.
It will show other power hungry nutjobs coming up that the Trump method works and to get even more radical in future campaigns/movements.
Then the future zealot-Maga-NeoNazi mob will take complete control as they'll be planted in all key aspects of government and military and police (already there most likely) and they will normalize hate and start rounding up all the types of humans they fear/dislike or that don't agree with their views, and they'll commit fucking genocide on your home fucking soil.
So if you vote for Biden, there is genocide but you're not complicit simply because you pay taxes.
And if you don't vote Biden, there is even more genocide, but possibly to people you know and love, and you are complicit because you failed to act, and you can kindly fuck off with that dumbshittery.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If a weatherman says we're getting two feet of snow, do you get mad at them because the snow would negatively effect people's lives?

Do you spend time and energy trying to convince them the bad thing they're predicting is a bad thing?

You think them not talking about it means it won't happen?

I just don't understand what leads people to thinking like you, but I guess someone had to burn all the medicine women for witchcraft. Just didn't expect this to make such a comeback.

[–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

Lol what a response...
Weather? Burning witches? Tha fuck are you on about?
None of that nonsense is a worry.
Didn't quite grasp it, eh?
Kinda makes you look like you have an agenda..
Aw well, I tried.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So your hope is that by threatening to not vote, you and likeminded voters will get Biden to change his positions sufficiently for you to vote for him before the election? That's not what you said in your first comment, and you being only one person is equally applicable to this or to what I said.

Why be mad at a social media account, when you’re apparently not mad at Biden?

Who said I'm not pissed at Biden? But I'm not talking to Biden right now.

All he has to do, is listen to his voters.

If you are stating you won't vote for him, you're not his voter.

If he can’t do that now, why does he deserve either of our votes?

It doesn't matter if he deserves it or not, unfortunately. I've already put forward my position that in FPTP, you effectively do not vote for someone, you vote against someone.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So your hope is that by threatening to not vote,

Man...

If the weather channel says a tornado is coming and to go to your basement, do you ask why they're threatening you with a tornado?

[–] Skua@kbin.social 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So this is an unstoppable mass movement with no actual intentions and you're just being swept along?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

I mean yeah.

Millions and millions of traditionally Dem voters aren't going to vote for Biden due to his words and actions.

You can't convince them all to hold their nose, Biden isn't even trying to, he's just chasing donations from the wealthy even tho his ad spending with the money isn't moving the needle.

Trying to convince everyone to shut up and vote for Biden is the same as yelling at a hurricane

But if you join the hurricane, it might be strong enough to move Biden far enough left he can squeak out a victory against the worst president in American history.