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[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't believe I have. "I'll suck every morsel of fun out of the day that I can" and "they can't do anything because I'm in a union" don't come across as positive statements.

Tone gets lost in text, so I can't be certain of intent, but I need to stress that unions exist to ensure fair treatment of us workers, at it's core. Get paid, be safe, and be respected. Those comments I responded to don't seem to consider that there's gotta be a fair exchange back to the employer as well, otherwise we're dooming the symbiosis that develops.

That's my take, downvote if you wish.

[–] subignition@fedia.io 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I definitely read it in more of a bit of a proud tone; "even if they tried to mess with my lunch break, union's got me covered" or so. That's probably where we diverged.

As for their first quote, well, I just figured that even if you're in a union job, it's still possible to not enjoy the job -- I'm not about to find fault in someone coveting the small moments of fun they get in their workday. (As an aside, even if a company is legally required to recognize a union, I figure "be respected" isn't really more likely post-unionization than it is beforehand, at least at most companies.)

Hope this helps

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I suppose it's up to individual on how they interpret it.

I personally word my statements carefully to reduce the odds it gets misinterpreted, butt it still happens on occasion.

If I've misinterpreted here, whoops. Onwards we go with no ill-will to anyone.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Tone gets lost in text,

Is just another way to say you need better reading comprehension. Buy a bunch of books and read them. Humanity hasn't had tone get lost in text for thousands of years until suddenly it's a problem for a small group of people on the internet.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What a polite and constructive comment.

"A bunch of books"... Resoundingly low effort, friend. Have a great day 😉

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee -5 points 5 months ago

You do know what a book is, right?

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Ah yes, because professional writers, classical poets, authors of the most famous works of history, and random people posting from their toilets on the internet are all equally good at conveying nuance and non-verbal cues.

[–] Promethiel@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

They don't even realize the absurdity of the example. I'd wager that after spouse and/or deity, you can ask the world's top 10 writers who their favorite person is and they'll name their editors/someone of significance to the revision process (we know or can guess at least one reason to revise text, eh?)

We're so bad at gauging tone throughout text that wars have sparked, entire industries eat, and people make a living on precisely how to phrase things in official writing. But no, Internet commenter says just grab random books and go to town y'all 🤣

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sorry if you're unable to grasp context. That's a you problem.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And false equivalence is yours!

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

.ml definitely knows all about false equivences, that's for sure.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago

And your trolls are fairly low effort!

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