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[–] infinitevalence 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

What am I supposed to do then. I tried voting progressive and Democrat, I tried organizing, I tried donating and fund raising, I tried at the local level.

And every step of the way the Democrats have gone out of their way to help move the goal posts to the point that my choices for a school board member we're someone openly racist or someone who is openly sexist.

For president I get genocide or fascism... Gee really motivating me there folks.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, for president you get a lot of genocide and fascism vs some genocide with sprinkles of humanitarian aid.

[–] KarmaPolice@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Exactly, they're the same picture, right? /s

[–] infinitevalence 3 points 7 months ago

Not even close but that still does not mean I have a valid choice.

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

you get one choice that has shown he can be pressured with reason and public opinion and one that wants to commit domestic crimes with impunity, that openly wants to have his political enemies killed, and that has shown he can be pressured by Russia. You know, the country that swore to defeat the US from within.

but yeah, both sides.

[–] infinitevalence 1 points 7 months ago

I will never suggest any form of equivalency because there simply is not one. The republican party is clearly a bad actor and comparing the democrats and suggesting they are in some way an equal evil is a ludicrous fallacy.

But that does not mean that voting democrat is an imperative, nor that they become a valid choice because the "others" are invalid.

The bulk of my voting power comes from republican primaries where I can have an outsized impact on which evil will get the chance to run, but beyond that my votes count for nothing.

My point is simply that if the democrats actually cared about making a difference, they would not prop up dead candidates, they would not bend over backwards to help move the goal posts for the republicans. What they could really do is change the laws around how we vote, create automatic registration, make election days mandatory holidays with mandatory time off to vote, pass laws around campaign fiance and transparency. But they wont, because the same tools help them "win" and have power.

Just look at Trudeau, who ran on a platform of voting reform in Canada, the second he had control he dropped that promise like it was radioactive. Why voluntarily break the system that put him and his party into power.... It clearly worked for them before. Same logic applies to the dem's in the US. They wont change the system, even while its being broken, because they still think it gives them a shot at power. We dont need power, we need actual population based representation and robust protection from corporate ownership of our government.