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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Elon Musk promised manned missions to Mars by now, and the beginning of building a base should have started already 2 years ago.

There are many good reasons to hate Musk, he is a liar and a con man.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

SpaceX is still making tremendous progress compared to NASA. I'm as annoyed with Musk as everyone else, but it's looking like they're the biggest hope we have right now of actually making progress with space exploration.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

But are they really making progress? NASA has pured billions into SpaceX, are they really getting what they were promised? AFAIK the answer to that is No-No-No and No, because they are so far behind, and haven't met any requirements for what SpaceX was supposed to do for the NASA manned moon mission Artemis.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is focused more on NASA's problems with the Artemis program, but I highly recommend reading this article.

Basically the whole Artemis mission plan is riddled with issues, and SpaceX and Blue Origin are required to have major breakthroughs in space refueling tech for their required roles to even be possible. With how many different issues the project has, it looks like the only good thing we may get out of the project is these breakthroughs (if they happen).

[–] lucas@fitt.au 7 points 5 months ago

@Fubarberry @Buffalox "Smarter Every Day" on Youtube did a talk pointing out the issues with artemis, to a room full of stakeholders.

it was glorious.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io -1 points 5 months ago

SpaceX launched the biggest rocket every to be launched in history, three times at this point, and you're questioning whether they're "making progress?"

As I said, you've prioritized hating Elon Musk over everything else.

[–] jo3jo3@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago

It's yes yes yes yes. You couldn't he more wrong.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you think he's a liar and a con man, then why even bring up his promises? They're obviously false. SpaceX has done great work despite who their current CEO is.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He was saying several years ago that he would be start building a Mars base in 2022 and have manned missions in 2024 which are both basically no closer today than they were then, that was a lie.
He said he would build hyperloops that would be cheap fast efficient across the country, that was a lie, that we now know was to stop building public transport.
He said in 2016 that full self driving that was safer than a person driving would be ready in 2017, and that was something they could do TODAY (in 2016). He repeated that lie in 2019, even claiming people could make up to $200000 per year if they bought a Tesla, because they could drive as autonomous taxi's beginning 2020. He claimed buying anything other than a Tesla would be stupid, because Tesla cars were the only ones that could do that. Except they couldn't and they still can't.

There is a very clear picture that Elon Musk is lying through his teeth, and he cons people into investing in and buying his products under false pretenses.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago

Okay? I thought we already established that he's a liar. You really sound like a fan of the guy since you follow his every word, but none of this detracts from the accomplishments of the engineers working at these companies.