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You're preemptively upset about an upcomimg movement that you acknowledge is vague on specifics. Do you even live in NYC? Why are they are all "shitheads"? Saying protesters also use petroleum is a bullshit point too. It's got dumb Charlie Kirk "you criticize society but are a member of society, curious" energy. Just say you hate protests and move on. Every other post here is someone that thinks whatever someone else is doing is wrong and it's not remotely helpful or interesting.
Again "Literally everyone in the US uses petroleum, even the people protesting petroleum depend on petroleum to engage in their protests." I guess you missed that was a point about the comparison to the civil rights movement. Civil rights protesters didn't depend on actively violating civil rights. The whole MLK invocation is absurd.
In any case you should offer to do some outreach for their org. You seem to care more about feeling righteous than actually achieving the outcome you supposedly support. Seems like a good fit with this group.
I could similarly say you should meet with them in person and explain to them directly the error in their ways. Saying there are zero lessons that can be learned from the civil rights movement is also absurd. Obviously it's different in many ways, but not completely.
I don't live anywhere near NYC and was just offering a counterpoint to the unnecessary criticisms of something that hasn't even happened yet. If that counts as "feeling righteous" to you, that's your conclusion and not anything to do with me. I've dedicated my career and significant time and expsne to this cause that I "supposedly support", but I do so without shitting on others in the way you've chosen to. I wish you success in however you are planning to dedicate your resources to the cause. We're on the same team friend.
I never doubt the bona fides of anonymous internet strangers ;) Sorry but when someone has to pull that out to make a point to another anonymous internet stranger it reeks of "need to win" desperation.
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Yeah you've got the high ground- lol. I called a hypothetical group 'shitheads' and you compare me directly to Charlie Kirk. No irony there.
But anyway keep up the great work- you're winning hearts and minds for our 'team', friend ;)
His attitude is certainly a lot better than yours.
Sounds like you two should hook up ;)
Also not sure how your keen nose for condescension picked up my scent but missed that. I'm sure it has nothing to do with any general biases against people that say anything negative about abstract 'protests' against global issues.
Seriously though if you want to block the construction\demolition of something your community doesn't want or stand between a group being oppressed and their oppressors I'll be genuinely proud of you for it. But these performative, symbolic 'disruptions' for global issues are just plain silly.
For sure, he sounds cool and all. At least you won't be there either so it's a win-win kinda scenario anyway.
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