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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

XR is widely hated, but it is extremely successful in making people talk about the climate crisis. Actions such as blocking oil refineries, coal power plants and so forth certainly work and cause massive damage to large emitters. The problem is that the media does not report on it, so when you want to recruit, you do so by blocking streets.

The simple truth is that you need both. Large scale mobilization and some more radical action. It is very clear that large scale protests have not worked as well as needed.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I would disagree that it's widely hated, I only hear the worst, most obnoxious assholes talking about how much they hate it. If anyone wants to say it's "widely hated" they'll need to give some numbers.

Also, anyone making a good faith effort to combat climate change in any way gets a pass from me, as long as we don't yet know it's actually counter-productive.

Anyone who actually cares about climate change would understand that there's no measure too ridiculous. If throwing soup on a painting's glass cover moves the needle on climate change even a millionth of a percent towards a solution then great, fucking do it. Even if it makes no difference at all fuck it, you're trying, I support you. Fuck the paintings, they won't matter if nobody's left to look at or preserve them. That's the point of that particular protest, to ask "Why do you care about this painting more than our climate?"

These people hate on activism despite never having any evidence that it's counter-productive beyond "I reckon it is," which just means they don't like it. They don't care about climate change or the human race, they're just here to shit on activists because they've been taught to hate them by fossil fuel industry propaganda.

So these aren't persuadable people, we shouldn't care about what they have to say, fuck 'em.