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[–] archomrade@midwest.social 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, because he framed his point in one particular emotionally resonant way that just maybe by pure coincidence tends to do more or less nothing at all for the Palestinians except hurt them, and by pure coincidence happens to feed Trump’s chances in the election.

I've seen so many tinfoil hat comments from you at this point that I'm sure you must be feeling lonely.

I'm not rooting for a trump presidency. I'm rooting for Biden to stop a genocide, and I believe 1000% Biden will lose on this issue alone if he doesn't address it.

[–] BallotOrTheBullet@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Will dropping his support for Isreal really get him voters? I'm not sure we can say that. He will loose support from zionists and believe it or not they are the ones that put him in office the first time. We knew back then.

The best and really only thing would to be stop the concerted effort to supress voter turn out. Then again the bad actors aren't going to stop and the rubes will follow them into the pits of hell. So pretty much, fucked every which way. Enjoy your moral highground while we are all under a mountain of shit.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have seen nothing but evidence that this fucks him

But also why shouldn't it? It's a contemptible thing for him to do (like at least don't be public about it, that way voters can safely ignore it)

The best and really only thing would to be stop the concerted effort to supress voter turn out.

I could not disagree more, his approval is already the second lowest in modern history. I don't know about you but I don't know how to campaign around 'yea, he's supporting a genocide, BUT'. nor would I fucking want to! How much shit should I be expected to have to eat just so I can get voters to ignore possibly the most publicly grotesque international policy i've ever seen?

We tried ignoring voters in 2016. Sure let's try that again, see if it works this time

[–] BallotOrTheBullet@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

They ignore voters every election.

The message isn't vote this turd in it's hey don't be stupid and let christo-fascism take root.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And they wonder why they keep losing to the most incompetent people on the planet.

[–] BallotOrTheBullet@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

They wonder, we don't.

Listen, the dems aren't anyone's friends. Just know this problem doesn't solve itself. You want to be on a path to a better society, yes let it all fall but accept it's not a humanitarian choice. You want to be on a path to incremental change, keep voting but accept that change won't happen in your lifetime. You want to be on a path to autocratic rule, vote republican.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'll do what I think is best with my vote, but I won't be giving democrats any fucking quarter in my home.

(Referring to the Malcom quote in your username, mods can remove this comment if you want but this is clearly metaphorical) They won't know until I pull the trigger if i'm loaded with blanks or bullets, but they'll be looking down the barrel of my gun either way.

[–] BallotOrTheBullet@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I dont give a shit how you vote but if you kept one other person from voting, you ought to be ashamed. When the ballots are counted they are thrown in the trash. It's what happens after, that matters.