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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 80 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

In case you missed it Zelenskyy pushes allies for direct involvement in Ukraine’s war with Russia.

Some rather legitimately impossible demands from Zelenskyy in there:

“Russians are using 300 planes on the territory of Ukraine. We [Ukraine] need at least 120-130 planes to resist in the sky,” Zelenskyy said, again calling on Western allies to supply with additional air defence systems. Ukraine is waiting for the delivery of US-designed F-16 fighter jets.

He just asked for 130 fighter jets from NATO? What the actual hell! Ukraine only had 170 jets in 2014 before the war started. Does any NATO country except for the USA even have that many spare jets? Zelenskyy is asking for an entirely new air force to fight Russia, direct from NATO. He really sees NATO as Amazon Prime for arms shipments or something.

He [Zelenskyy] said if countries could not supply the planes straight away, they could still fly them from neighbouring NATO states and shoot down Russian missiles.

Ukraine was also negotiating with international partners to use their weapons to strike Russian military hardware at the border and further inside Russian territory, Zelenskyy said.

“So far, there is nothing positive,” he said.

Did he just ask for European airforces to directly participate in the war? Is he out of his mind?! Of course NATO said you you clueless fool!

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 48 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago (2 children)

He has to realise how ridiculous he sounds at this point. The US and NATO keep having to tell him no, that's not how this works.

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They gave them all they asked for for the summer offensive. Whenever they say "we wont send X" they end up caving and sending it. Do you think zelensky knows anything about production/stockpile numbers? He's on so much copeium that even if he did know the official numbers he'd convince himself "those are just the numbers they publish, daddy usa has 100x more than that in secret bunkers. They had to get something for the trillions of dollars they've spent on their military."

He's so zooted I bet he really does believe the west can send all that stuff and is choosing not to.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I mean NATO still has not given Ukraine fighter jets or very long range weapons and Ukraine has been asking for them for a while now. Then there was the summer offensive where NATO forced Ukraine to attack using combined arms tactics which require air support, while Ukraine had no air force. A lot of NATO trained elite Ukrainian units were essentially given an impossible mission by their NATO masters, to attack as if they have air support, when they did not. Remember the Bradley division that got destroyed? Which was a big issue, and NATO complained when Ukraine went back to conventional tactics. So I don't think NATO has given Ukraine everything that they have asked for, and for good reason in their eyes. They probably do not trust Ukraine not to escalate and directly attack Russia given all the rhetoric from Ukraine. Also it's probably not feasible for Ukraine to operate F-16s, as they require pristine runways. It's why there was such a big push to try get Ukraine Gripen fighter planes, as they can operate from makeshift roads and runways. NATO countries do not want to send 100 F-16 jets to the scrap heap after they get blown up by Russian missiles, like the Abrams tanks currently are being blown up now.

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

I'm talking about the expectations set in the formative years of zelensky's training and why he really doesn't "have to realise how ridiculous he sounds at this point."

He was trained to think that if he made enough of a stink he would get what he wanted. For zelensky the word "no" just means to beg harder and nato will cave. He thinks nato weapons shipments are like magic If he says the right incantation, with the right emotion, in the right setting, to the right people, the weapons will arrive. He keeps trying different configurations but the results have stopped working and he is incapable of understanding why. His most recent successful "Spell castings" he has said "I need 10" and he gets 5, so he thinks if he asks for 100 he will get 50 when the fact is what he asks for and what he gets are unrelated. He thinks he is haggling when in fact his words and desires are irrelevant.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago

I wonder if a lot of the 2nd generation post-soviet looters are actually surprised when they find out that value actually comes from labor and not from grifting? The first generation probably knew they were getting rich and participating in a once in a lifetime party. The second generation of fail children seems to have actually believed the anti-communist rhetoric.

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He has to know there's no way any of this will happen, but he has to keep making demands so that after the loss he can blame western allies for not helping enough. Washington and Europe will blame the Ukrainians and inferior Slavic ways and etc., this is about establishing a counter-narrative.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's a pretty bad counter narrative though. The narrative of "NATO refused to rebuild our entire Air Force for us at the flick of a switch while over 2 years into the war, so we lost" is not convincing

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago
[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 41 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why is he begging for help shooting down missiles? I thought they were shooting down 90% on their own?

I find it so absurd that this guy can lie like "we've only lost 31k soldiers" and then expect that people will believe him when he says "we need x." Like a "friend" who is constantly bragging that they have a corvette and a porche but they both happen to be in the shop when they are begging for a ride to the weed dealer.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago

The Ghost of Kyiv is doing maintenance on his jet. That’s why Zelenskyy needs the west to pick up the slack

[–] CrackBurger@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] GladimirLenin@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Mr Zalinko sir, I'm afraid we have slava'd our last ukraini. Good luck with your future endeavours.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

The juxtaposition of Zelenskyy's mad demands, along with NATO constantly telling him no while they try to keep a united front despite all the infighting is pretty wild to see play out. Zelenskyy will ask for 300 fighter jets and a no fly zone next I guess.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

I mean he's been asking for a no fly zone since 2022 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60629175

[–] GladimirLenin@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

If he decided to try and negotiate a peace agreement, how long before he gets got?

[–] nurjahreszeiten@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

They haven't recieved a single F-16 yet, and they're already asking for over 120 of them. I guess you miss all the shots that you don't take, but man is this an impossible longshot for Ukraine.