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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 148 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Banning sex work is about as successful as banning drugs. All it usually does is lead to more misery for the sex workers. Which is entirely the intention, of course.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Let's not forget the other side of the equation, a lot more people would try drugs if they weren't illegal. Which is a good thing, because learning about them helps all of society.

[–] Entropywins@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

My experience as an addict tells me more people trying drugs isn't necessarily the best thing they can do for their lives IMHO.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if it's true that making drugs legal means more people try them. It might make sense in a certain sort of way but I'd like to see data before accepting it as truth.

[–] skulblaka@startrek.website 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

As it seems to me, who hung around with a lot of drug users back in the day, as well as regular folks: most people who are interested in trying them can and will get their hands on it regardless of legality, sometimes easily. It's about as low risk of a crime as there is. Those who aren't interested, won't, again regardless of legality. There will be edge cases where somebody will go "Ah what the hell, it's legal now, why not" and toddle on over to their local dispensary for the first time but largely speaking anybody that wants to smoke weed or snort coke is probably already doing it.

Now what probably would change is the number of people on record using drugs, per capita, over the next few generations if it becomes normalized like alcohol has been. Which makes sense. But, counterpoint to that, in countries where they have legalized many drugs they still often have lower rates of severe addiction because they've generally also set up safety nets for those folks. Accessible medical care and available addiction treatment options will keep many drug users from hitting rock bottom, but we don't really have that in the US so many users will often go unassisted in any way for ages and lose jobs and homes because of it, only getting "help" when it becomes forced upon them by the state (which is frequently not in any way helpful).

Anyway, I'm rambling, but tl;dr it's definitely a multifaceted situation and blanket legalization probably isn't a great move without accompanying medical and social support, which needs to happen anyway regardless of any moves for drug legalization. Gotta walk before we can run, unfortunately.

[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

I think they're talking about the less addictive and nonaddictive drugs, like ganja and LSD respectively.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago

So long as that drug use is paired by actually good rehabilitation infrastructure (like Portugal's drug abuse treatment before its unraveling)

[–] Lennard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Scandinavian model only criminalizes the clients, so I guess making their life's worse isn't the purpose. Still I am in favor of a fully regulated market with favorable working conditions.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That model is much better but from what I heard it's still not optimal for sellers because buyers are still committing a crime so it will still need to happen far away from the law and anyone that could help protect the sellers, like in massage places and sus places of town. Otherwise no buyers would dare buy.

Not just that, Nordic sex workers have a combination of problems in the various countries, like not being able to rent private housing because that's seen as profiting off sex workers (pimping) and various other ancillary limitations surrounding that.

You're better off fully decriminalizing first, and then later probably creating some sort of government sanctioned organization made up of sex workers and customers, to regulate the industry.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 months ago

Also, completely banning sex work makes it a lot harder to regulate.