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People who suscribe to Spotify don't give a shit about musicians.
As a musician and spotify subscriber, can confirm
I think I understand your sentiment, but I don't think that's a fair take. I subscribe to Spotify, but I also go to 6-10 shows per year, buy merch directly. The music industry has changed, and live entertainment is king. I'm sure you have an opinion for the stance you're presenting, but that's statement is pretty inflammatory by itself.
Yeah, it is an unpopular opinion lol.
The fact is Spotify and Youtube music are the two worse streaming service. They give less to artists, the pool system only benefits artists that are signed to majors, and on top of that they give 100 effing millions to stupid Joe Rogan. You are paying money to Joe, not artists.
If you need a streaming service, Tidal is the only ok option. Same price but 3x more for artist. But the best thing you can do is: buy album from bandcamp (90% to the artists), go to shows, buy merch, contribute directly to the artists in any way.
I'm actually teaching in a college to young musicians, who all want to live of their music but pretty much none of them has ever even bought an album. I don't think I've ever convinced a single one to switch to Tidal.
I can confirm, however, recently I have dusted off my old ipod classic and moved it and not I am buying most of my music and storing it there (I say most because there are some songs that I already had CDs and just ripped then... and a few that where acquired by other means ๐ดโโ ๏ธ)
You can't have it both ways.
Piracy took off because the ability to outright download any song you want within minutes was so much better than anything else available. Spotify dominated because it allowed for streaming, which again, much easier than downloading and wading through lists to get the right song.
Ultimately, utility wins. If I care about musicians, what is my option? I could download from Bandcamp, but that reduces the usability of just streaming, and most artists aren't on Bandcamp. I could support their gigs, but frankly, Spotify does a decent job of this already by telling me when my favourite artists are touring. Any alternative needs to be as usable, but public about giving a shit about musicians.
With all that said, I'd say that most people don't give a shit about musicians anyway. Hundreds of artists have come to prominence during the Spotify era, and they seem to be doing just fine, and while I'm being purposely facetious in this example, when most people are struggling in their own jobs due to rising costs, they probably don't have fucks to give about musicians.