All the noise I see is from people insisting that Rust developers are noisy, and their favorite language is much better types-don't-solve-bugs-undefined-behavior-is-fine-and-memory-errors-are-not-a-problem.

Actual Rust developers have been silent for years.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 41 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I once shared that I had a bad first experience with Rust and no less than four Rust developers arrived to inform me that I was either hallucinating, or bad at programming, or both.

I haven't had this much fun winding up a sensitive community since I shared how I really felt about Java Spring, in it's heyday.

[–] pooberbee@lemmy.ml 33 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I suspect there are a lot of "Rust devs" that are little more than kool-aid drinkers. Common refrains are that Rust is the fastest language, most type-safe language, and most powerful language. Rust certainly seems to move the state of the art forward in some ways, but you can still write garbage code in it.

I've worked with lots of different people in lots of different languages, and I think I'd rather good people in a bad language than the other way around by a mile.

[–] realbadat@programming.dev 13 points 6 months ago

Pfft, that's only because you write garbage code in rust.

I write garbage code in lots of languages!

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

You can write garbage code in rust, but the compiler will beat you with a stick for doing so.

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bloody hell mate. A little bit of warning before so casually dropping Java Spring out there.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 11 points 6 months ago

Sorry. I'll use the content warning format next time.

[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 19 points 6 months ago

As a rust dev myself... It's my right to be obnoxious

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

I tend to stick to interpreted languages so I can't weigh in on the Rust vs. C++ debate, but I know that if you're trying to make headway against a language as entrenched as C++ is you've got to get loud.