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[–] prole@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Enshittification" isn't a rabbit hole, it's a term made up by a pretty hacky young adult sci-fi author like a few months ago for behavior that has been happening and documented in capitalism for at least a century.

[–] LittlePrimate@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Putting a name on a century-old concept isn't the worst idea because now we can easily refer to it when it happens once again. And yes, the old age of that problem is why I consider it a bit of a rabit-hole. It's not just something Twitter does now or that tech companies do now because they copy from each other. It's a quite old concept you'll hear about again and again and can read up on quite a bit, if you really are interested into more than the basic concept or why companies keep trying even though the outcome does not always see positive (from an outside, users perspective).

[–] prole@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It already has a name. That's my point.

It's not "happening once again," it has been happening constantly for a century. It's just another form of rent seeking. People like yourself are so focused on tech that you can't put it together and realize that this is something that happens everywhere in capitalism. Giving it different names due to slight variations, or depending on which market, makes it impossible to do anything about on a large scale because it keeps people fractured in their understanding of what is happening.

I'm glad a bunch of people are finally starting to grasp rent seeking, but it's important that people realize that this is a long tradition that has been "enshittifying" their entire lives (and their parents', and grandparents', and great-great-... you get it).

As long as people believe that what they're experience is a unique type of problem, and other industries don't have that specific problem so therefore they have their own separate battles to fight, then nothing will ever change.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That sci-fi author is 52 "young" already, has spent like 25 years writing and active about the evolution of the Internet and how it impacts personal rights, so I'd give him the right to coin a new term for an old concept.

It doesn't prevent anyone from calling it:

  • "Attract, Fidelize, Monetize"
  • "Entice, Entrap, Exploit"
  • "Capture, Enslave, Squeeze"

...or whatever other set of words doesn't elicit a negative connotation in the business world at the particular moment in time.

[–] prole@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Young-adult authors write books for young adults. The author's age is irrelevant (actually, the older they are, the creeper writing books for pre-teens becomes).

They are seeking to increase their wealth without providing additional productivity, or anything of value. That's rent seeking. Not a new concept, happening constantly around us, and nobody seems to want to call it what it is.