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No, but that is not what they said, they said they were forced to reopen. That happened in such a way: they sent a message to the main mod and told him to reopen or be replaced. He didn‘t respond within an hour, so they removed him as main mod and made some other mod who was willing to play ball the main mod.
Since there is always some sucker to be found on Reddit who enjoys taking orders and licking boots, no sub can really defend against this move by Reddit admins. Which is probably why some other mods decided to maliciously comply instead.
Me, I think anyone with some dignity would go out like the r/piracy mod did, don‘t respond and get removed and rebuild elsewhere.
I don't think the mod refused to respond if this is to be believed. It seems Reddit sent a message but at a bad time (for the mod). He apparently never got a chance to respond.
Imagine being so douchey that, despite relying on free content and free moderation, you still whine about not being profitable being the users' fault and then you demand from moderators that they are basically available 24/7 to take your call. This is not just a dumpster fire, this is throwing canisters of gasoline into a dumpster fire.
Yeah true, that is more accurate to what he said.
Yeah, pretty much. To not reopen you have to have absolute confidence that no one on the mod team will succumb to the temptation to steal ownership of the sub. The fact that some subs have fallen prey to this (like /r/piracy) is why mods have been wringing their hands and reopening subs left and right.
Honestly this shit is early IRC drama all over again; kick all the other ops from the channel and it belongs to you, provided those people aren't registered in the ChanServ. /u/spez is the ChanServ, and he's letting everyone know he's willing to look the other way.
/slap spez
I forgot how much I missed that feature.
Don’t worry even if any of your mods on the mod team don’t want to play ball they can just remove all the mods and install their own. They don’t need to be a current mod to be given ownership.
I've got to think that Reddit is going to get a lot less and lower quality free moderator activity after this, reducing the quality of the site.
Don’t worry even if any of your mods on the mod team don’t want to play ball they can just remove all the mods and install their own. They don’t need to be a current mod to be given ownership.
Yeah. Also I remember when loveforlandlords went from a shitpost sub for making memes about landlords from the perspective of the landlords to a cringe sub about non-jokingly hating on landlords because some degenerate couldn't fathom the existence of such a sub, even tho there's a sub for serious hating on landlords already. He became the main mod, kicked everybody else and the others made loveforlandchads instead
Just like this, Reddit kicked DB0 and he made the Lemmy server
Interesting, but I can‘t find sympathy for landlordlovers in myself, I filtered that out immediately when I discovered it. Bad enough I have to work so much and pay almost half of my income to one who just sits around and does nothing, I don’t need to be mocked for it online too.
Anyway, the great thing about the fediverse is you can make this community as an instance too if you need it and then other instances who dislike that can defederate and we can hopefully all live in peace and harmony (at least online).
The thing is, loveforlandlords wasn't about actually loving landlords. It was stuff like "Oh single mother? Time to increase rent", satire from the perspective of the landlord. Then the new mod came in and he was like "Nah fuck this" and turned it into landlordlove 2 electric boogaloo
Loveforlandlords was like boozecruisers, satirising something a lot of people dislike. Now loveforlandchads is the good one and landlords is a dogshit sub
I see, I misunderstood it then, but to be fair some subs say they are satire and then the people who actually believe this are there too, like with the_donald which I thought was funny satire in the beginning, until a point when it really wasn‘t.
An hour? Bloody hell, what if they had wanted to but had been asleep or something?
A requirement to answer a message within the hour 24/7 seems very strict for a paid job, never mind a volunteer moderator doing this stuff for free.
Yeah I had it a little bit wrong and someone else corrected it—the mod said he hadn‘t even seen it before he was removed, someone else alerted him to what had happened after the fact.