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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Positive change does not come from electoralism. Vote for whoever you want, but organize and help gain traction for leftist movements.

[–] Colonel_Panic_@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I do everything I can locally and in primaries and before the main presidential elections. I vote for who I actually want in all those. But for the main election I'm going to keep Trump out of office the best way possible and voting 3rd party isn't it.

Until we have ranked choice voting across the board we ARE stuck with a 2 party system. Arguing against that is ignoring decades of proof on some weird hope that "maybe this time our 3rd party guy might win" and they never do.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't see how any of what you just said relates to what I just said. Positive change towards Socialism cannot happen electorally, so if you want to vote for Biden, go for it. It won't move us any closer to Socialism.

[–] Colonel_Panic_@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Oh, maybe I misunderstood. Sorry. Yes I agree. It's why I want to see Ranked Choice Voting being pushed. That would get more socialist leaning candidates that could implement some social policies to benefit all of us.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Ranked choice would be nice, but I don't share your optimism that it could be implemented broadly in the US, nor would it allow Socialist leaning candidates to take office.

The US is built on Imperialism and maintaining its status in the global order, any candidates that go against that would be ruthlessly slandered by the media and near forcibly removed.