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[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The Ukrainian lines are collapsing and chaotic retreats are becoming the norm. This is your best shot in two years to either surrender to the Russians, escape to another country maybe, or die. If you choose to fallback to the next Ukrainian defensive line then you choose to be an obstacle in Russias way.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

...is it fun to surrender to Russia?

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

From what I understand the Russians treat their pows decently well. They follow protocol as outlined by the UN charter, so it’s not like they’re executing people outright or anything. The main thing is the Ukrainian army is in retreat and historically that is the point where you will see the highest casualty numbers because you are losing the cohesion needed to actually mount a defense. Not surrendering is essentially suicide at this point because you might live through one Russian breakthrough, but there is no guarantee you’ll make it through the next one or the one after that. It’s a long way to Odessa.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

They do breach international law in that they often film/picture the captives or have them make statements, which I believe is prohibited. Ukraine does this as well.

Outside of that, we have seen prisoner exchanges and the POWs that Russia had don’t have any visible deformations. Apparently Ukraine was castrating and amputating their POWs early on, and the command was encouraging it

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Neat! Honestly I kind of expected Russian authorities to be pretty fuckin rude in their handling of POWs given the uh, virulent prejudice against Russians coming out of Ukraine, so that's actually good to hear.

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ukrainians seem to be much more bigoted towards Russians than the reverse. Mostly due to western Ukraines adherence to Banderism and their political shift towards the collective west and pro NATO stances.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

Many such cases, you hate to see it folks.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

Seems like ordinary conscripts are treated well while Azovites and other fascists not so well.