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It's amazing to me that so many people have accepted a completely warped conception of consent and continue to argue that it's ok.
Jesus Christ. It's a PUBLIC forum . My head hurts. I'll be here channeling my inner boomer at 38 apparently.
You consented when you made the choice to use SOMEONE ELSES PUBLIC COMMUNICATION PLATFORM.
No, there is a point beyond which the use of data becomes unethical and outside what normal people would actually consider what they reasonably consented to.
If you post on a forum, and I collect your data, create a unique writing style profile for you and then match it against other data I scrape or buy from across the web, perhaps your address you used to buy something that was also released to third-party advertisers because you didn't read some three mile long EULA and I'm able to find all those details, then I use that data and go murder you I don't then get to argue in court "Well, they posted all that info online, so they were consenting to me using their data in this circuitous, unintuitive way. They wanted me to commit this crime against them."
That's not consent. That's a sociopaths conception of consent.
I get the tech cult has made it really difficult for people to understand these concepts, but it is not ethical to pretend that when people post on a social media page with the purpose of having discussion and debate that they also intend for their data to be used in these other tangential ways.
If you post your name and address in a corkboard in a public hall. You shouldn't be angry if the mayor or anybody uses your name and address for their benefit. Nobody forced you to post those publicly. Morality is just a social construct anyways.
If I hear one more motherfucker use this to disregard a concept I am going to go apeshit.
Everything made by humanity is either a social construct or caused/influenced by social constructs because we are extremely social animals.
Yes all of our norms are a social construct. But pretending that another person is more superior than another simply because the other OP aligned themselves on one of these social constructs is very ridiculous.
Just let others live their lives, let them choose what they want, let them suffer the consequences. I hate seeing the other OP forcing their belief on others. Just live and let live.
Huh?
How is "I'm not giving implicit consent to use my speech and work for free in your shifty AI" forcing their beliefs on you?
If anything you're the one who is in favour of giant corporations forcing themselves on the rest of humanity.
Morality is not only a social construct, you have it naturally as a child and if you've forgotten that I am sorry - I know a lot of people don't remember anything of their first six or seven years of life. However, you observe morality in children even if you're not railroading them. That "natural morality" is informed and altered by the society you live in, certainly, often in compromising ways that make you less, not more, moral, but to insist that morality is entirely socially negotiated is to negate your own lived experience, which is neither objectively nor subjectively a path to truth.
As someone who lived in seven different places by the time i was five, and who experienced several events involving extreme violence during that time which left a powerful impression, and furthermore due to my experience as a father, and in spite of my education as a psychologist which daftly and without basis (though with a lot of compelling circumstantial evidence) insists otherwise, i tell you with certainty - morality is innate.
Normal people don't shout in public places and expect privacy.
Suggesting common sense pratices and understanding of how the world works isn't being supporting of the state of things. I see no argument in the comment you replied to that it's ok.
Time isn't infinite, and if I have to choose only one option then I'd focus on helping people make their way through the world that currently exists, rather than focusing on impotent ranting about how things should be.
We can't just snap our fingers and live in the world of how things should be. Until we get there we all have to live in the world that is.
The issue is not the scrapping of public internet here, the issue is that reddit thinks they own my shit posting lol