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I am fucking scared of the mass surveilence nightmare direction that the internet and the world as a whole is going towards... C2PA, france hacking itself into citizen phones, the UK anti encryption law, EU's chat control, etc. Im also sick of and hate the "you will own nothing and be happy" mentality that corpos try to push. I dont wanna know how the world will look like in 5-10 years.

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[–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Intel can read RAM directly and other parameters using their built in security systems on certain chips. Maybe do more research first to understand why that is distressing. There are some projects for open source CPUs on-going.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've looked into this extensively but see zero actual real world effects other then being a boogyman to hardcore FOSS nerds

[–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Idk what you're talking about, it's been done plenty of times?

Plus we dont even really know what new "Security" tech their cooking up nowadays. Especially with in-house chips like Apple M chips.

Meltdown Redux: Intel Flaw Lets Hackers Siphon Secrets from Millions of PCs

[–] float@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Even phones have security chips in them these days.

Fun fact: Intel introduced the Management Engine right around the time they joined the NSA's PRISM program.

[–] planish@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like the management engine card is sneakily changing the threat model in the middle of the conversation.

Is it bad? Yes. Is it a big source of security holes? Absolutely.

Is it a way that Facebook is going to profile you to try and sell you to advertisers? Or a reason why you can't ditch Windows? No.

[–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What does ditching windows have to do with security chips? OS sits above the hardware so that does not make sense. Any linux distro is just as susceptible as it stands.

No ones worried about social media companies messing with your hardware (not yet). That's off-topic. Besides, legally nothing stops Intel or AMD from just selling the harvested data to Fb or whoever so that point is kind of moot too.

Actually news just broke as I was writing this and guess what. Now there is a bug allowing browser exploitation of the CPU using... Javascript! What a time to be alive..

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/07/encryption-breaking-password-leaking-bug-in-many-amd-cpus-could-take-months-to-fix/