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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 61 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In a statement, Kentucky Attorney General Russell Coleman accused President Biden of being “willing to sacrifice the American auto industry and its workers in service of its radical green agenda.”

If you look up the 10 most "Made in America" cars, the top 4 slots by a huge margin are Tesla Model 3,Y,S,X , which are all EVs, and they are at near 100% (or 100% for some models). There isn't another American car brand on the list. So when Coleman is talking about sacrificing American auto workers, who's he talking about? A car that is 40% American because all the parts are made in China or Mexico and there's some final assembly done in the USA?

P.S. Musk is an idiot, though I'm not sure that needs to be said anymore as its so obvious.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

the top 4 slots by a huge margin are Tesla Model 3,Y,S,X

Is that true? I saw recently that 95% of Tesla's cars are the Model Y. I assume a huge chunk of the remaining 5% is the Model 3, leaving very few Model S and X cars on the road. I'd be very surprised to hear that either one of them is in the top 4 best selling American made cars.

Edit: Just looked up this article of best selling cars in 2024, which includes non-American made cars.

Removing those, it looks like it's:

  1. Ford F-Series: 152,943 units sold

  2. Chevrolet Silverado: 127,563 units sold

  3. Tesla Model Y: 109,000 units sold

  4. Ram Pickup: 89,417 units sold

  5. GMC Sierra: 68,597 units sold

  6. Ford Explorer: 58,465 units sold

  7. Jeep Grand Cherokee: 54,455 units sold

  8. Chevrolet Equinox: 54,185 units sold

  9. Tesla Model 3: 42,000 units sold (Looks like my 95% number was way off)

  10. Ford Transit: 39,890 units sold

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I’d be very surprised to hear that either one of them is in the top 4 best selling American made cars.

I said nothing about top sales. I said "most made in America". As in: of all cars sold in the USA, what are the top 10 which contain the most American manufactured parts and labor".

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

Oh gotcha, I misunderstood. Yes they are very much made in America. Seeing people complain about them and acting patriotic because they drive a Ford cracks me up.

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

how was that figured out? most evs have a less complex manufacturing process and rely on a shitload of electronic components that aren't manufactured domestically. i'd be interested to see the methodology!

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

i’d be interested to see the methodology!

You're welcome to read this 158 page PDF from the CBO https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/97th-congress-1981-1982/reports/1982_08_16_domestic.pdf

The main legislation comes from the Automobile Information Disclosure Act.

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml -2 points 6 months ago

i meant the claim that teslas are the top made in america cars. i looked and found cars.com's list of the most made in america cars and their dubious Made in America Index and that's about it.

i also want to just throw an electronics manufacturing industry scoff at the CBOs methodology. i used to work for an electronics manufacturer that did mostly pcb assembly. a bunch of the work was government contracts or prestige stuff that had to say "made in USA" on it as opposed to the more clear symbol of a hollowed out manufacturing sector, "assembled in USA". every day truckloads of parts from china would get soldered to PCBs from iirc taiwan and that was enough to earn made versus assembled.