I said they're both genocide. Just because the oppressor could lose doesn't remove the possibility of genocide. Germany lost WW2, but they absolutely committed genocide.

Russia has abducted 20k Ukrainian children. Russia has destroyed museums, schools, cultural monuments, and churches. Russia has changed the language in the regions they conquered. It has been declared a genocide by many nations, scholars, and the international criminal court.

What "KD ratio" is required for a genocide to count in your mind?

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It cannot be both a genocide and a war. You're intentionally misrepresenting the situation while using the state narrative's verbiage.

Also the Germans didn't lose the war to the Jewish population specifically so what is your point?..

Is it a war in Palestine or a slaughter?

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Historically that's total nonsense. Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia were at war during the Nazi Holocaust in Russia that killed over a hundred thousand people. Are you saying that wasn't genocide? I find that absurd.

Israel declared war on Hamas, but that's still a genocide. Russia didn't declare war until last month. Ukraine hasn't declared war, they're being invaded. So how does your distinction make any sense?