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[–] DrDominate@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I love AMD cards, but they seem to be wrongly adamant in their opinion that their cards are worth as much as nvidia cards. Nor do they have the right to be asking so much from such small share of the graphics market.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

No cuda, no dlss, no ray tracing.

Nvidia is also overpriced since COVID days. A graphics card should not cost as much as the entire rest of the computer.

Bring me back the top card for 600CAD and I could go for it. But for cards north of 1.2k, fuck that. I'd go AMD purely just because of their Linux support compared to Nvidia. But I'm holding onto my 2070 super with weak hopes prices will become sane again in the future.

[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Amd cards have Ray tracing, and their own fsr

[–] JK_Flip_Flop@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

I much prefer FSR as it's a more open system. DLSS only works on Nvidia because Nvidia wants it to only work on Nvidia. FSR might be a step behind tech wise but it's improving all the time.

I think it's easy to draw a comparison here with the G-Sync vs Freesync debate that has pretty much resulted in total victory for AMD. From my observations G-Sync clings to life in only the very highest end bleeding edge turbo gamer monitors.

More open and permissive standards hopefully win out in the end.

[–] NIB@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

They have inferior ray tracing performance for their price and fsr has inferior image quality/performance in comparison to dlss. Even intel's xess is superior to fsr. And thats on top of amd cards using more power per frame rendered while offering extremely marginal rasterization performance/price improvement over nvidia.

So in the end, people would rather pay 10% more and get an nvidia card. And thats without taking into account the perceived brand value.

Amd gpus are in their bulldozer days. They need a zen like pump in their architecture or a significant price cut. People shit on nvidia for selling neutered overpriced cards but amd deliberately prices its own cards barely cheaper than nvidia's.

Imagine if the 7800xt was 400€. We wouldnt be having this conversation. Are you telling me that amd's margins are so narrow that they cant do that? Then either nvidia isnt scamming us or they have brilliantly created something that has lower cost than amd's cards, while offering similar performance. I am not sure which scenario is better for AMD.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago

I never told you anything about margins

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

Been a while since I looked I guess 😅.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

You're not the NVIDIA target market anymore.