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[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 84 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Hi. I’m not American. But we all understand Trump’s threats. Or the inherent threat he poses. I think I speak for the world.

I’m more worried about a system that let someone like that get this far!

[–] scaredoftrumpwinning@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I swear I remember my social studies teacher saying one reason for the electoral college is to prevent someone like Trump. The founding fathers didn't want to trust the popular vote in case the masses got duped. With the polarization of the parties there's little chance of voting for the other person happening. There are some state laws that force them to vote for their candidate but I'm not sure how many states have the faithless electors clause.

Of course we got Trump because of the electoral college he lost the popular vote.

[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

I have serious concerns about the electoral college. With this upcoming election being the way it is... it's really hard to say which they'll vote. It's really demoralizing to know that even if Biden wins the popular vote they can just elect trump anyway.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah I have no doubt that was the original idea. But now it just filters out all but 2 candidates that are paid for by big business and other outside investors. All of them foaming at the mouth to get whatever law makes them another billion eradicated or passed.

[–] Dragster39@feddit.de 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It always amazes me that, in more than just America, so many people are convinced by people like Trump.

There might not be the one perfect system but it should be allowed to modernize some flaws to prevent exactly this and allow more parties to exist.

[–] Sodis@feddit.de 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

More parties unfortunately does not fix the problem, as you can see by the rise of fascists in nearly all democracies worldwide.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 6 months ago

Indeed part of the reason the current Israeli government is so radically right is that Netanyahu kept having to find more desperate and less morally-centered parties to make a coalition government with.

Still, I'm happier living in a country with a dozen parties than on with only two...

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

Definitely a lot of biases but I’ve never met anyone outside the US that even remotely likes Trump. I think the world really sees your presidency as a total joke. But I mean Bush Jr… twice.

[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Speaking as an American: Our system lets people take the office despite not winning the popular vote. That's just straight-up systemic corruption.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've always said Trump's not the hero we need but the villain we deserve. We did this to ourselves, with citizens united, 24 hr "news", straight up stupidity, and a just really strange sort of egotrip. Conversely my boy Bernie is the hero we needed, for the same reasons.

As to that egotrip. I don't think losing the Soviet Union was good for us. We need someone to lean into. Those goat spooning terrorist assholes just didn't cut it adversary wise. China is too foreign to make a truly good enemy. Now we're just vs. ourselves with predictable outcomes. If only there were a better way.