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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Palestine (Russian ally through Iran)

Russia isn't in military allience with Iran. Both Russia and Iran are neighbors sanctioned by the US, forcing them into a business partnership by exclusion.

And Iran isn't allied with Gaza Palestinians. You're confusing them with the Yemeni Houthis and West Bank Hezbollah. What you have is Israelis engaging in terrorist acts against both states, then conflating retaliation with cooperation.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Also Israel is a state not a terrorist organization

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_state-sponsored_terrorism

An early example of Israeli state-sponsored was the 1954 Lavon Affair, a botched bomb plot in Egypt that led to the resignation of the Israeli defense minister at the time. In the 1970s and 1980s, Israel was also a major supplier of arms to dictatorial regimes in South America, Sub-Saharan Africa, and Asia. In the 21st-century, it has been accused of sponsoring and supporting several terrorist groups as part of its proxy conflict with Iran.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Israel is a state

Response:you’re right but here’s a list of organizations that are

Congratulations, just seems like wasted effort

[–] Cannacheques@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You're right that a state can commit terrorism just like a group can, but the key issue here is whether the state works towards being held accountable and towards achieving a long term benefit for all its benefactors, investors, assets and the society it's providing for

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I was saying a state can’t commit terrorism by virtue of being a state they are war crimes

The difference is that random Israeli isn’t held accountable for war crimes committed by the regime but random Kurd/ISIS member/Proud Boys member can be held accountable for terrorist activities even if they aren’t involved

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

https://al-shabaka.org/briefs/the-systematic-torture-of-palestinians-in-israeli-detention/

The recent case of Samer Arbeed highlighted once again the systematic use of torture against Palestinian detainees in Israeli prisons. Israeli soldiers arrested Arbeed at his home in Ramallah on September 25, 2019. They beat him severely before taking him to Al Moscobiyye detention center in Jerusalem for interrogation. Two days later, according to his lawyer, he was hospitalized as a result of severe torture, and lay in critical condition for several weeks. A judicial body had authorized the Israeli Secret Service, the Shin Bet, to use “exceptional methods” to extract information in this case without going through the courts. This led Amnesty International to condemn what happened to Arbeed as “legally-sanctioned torture.“