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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by Nakoichi@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

Zionists are attacking the barriers erected by the anti-Zionist protesters at the UCLA camp.

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[-] HamManBad@hexbear.net 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Good, cleaving liberals from the left is absolutely necessary to move forward. This genocide, and the war in the donbas to a lesser extent, has been a good filter to get the imperialists to show their ass

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago

It's not enough to draw lines between liberals and leftists. Ultimately we need to convince a lot of people (almost certainly a lot of now-liberals) to get on our side if we're going to accomplish anything.

[-] HamManBad@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I would make a distinction between soft liberals, who are generally left-leaning normies who just absorbed the ambient ideology around them, and the hardcore, "uhm acktually" neolibs who are as rabidly imperialist and anticommunist as any fascist. The latter should be treated the same as chuds

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

That's definitely a useful distinction, but I don't think you treat the latter group like chuds -- they're the ones who articulate that ambient ideology the former group nods along to. Dismiss or attack a group someone already disagrees with (chuds) and that group will give you broad latitude, or even cheer you on. Dismiss or attack the sacred cows of liberal spaces and those "soft liberals" will tell themselves that you didn't actually address what was said.

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