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[–] banana_lama@lemm.ee 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why does it matter? The standard is now open and can be used by everyone. It's just like CCS now from a usability pov but with many more chargers

[–] frezik@midwest.social 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If anything, it was a major coup by Tesla to make their plug the standard when they have the largest existing charging network for that plug. Now they're in a position of letting other networks catch up.

This decision is bafflingly stupid. Is firing people the only way Musk can get hard anymore?

[–] banana_lama@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I didn't really follow. Because the way it happened was, Tesla can make money from it's charging stations and other OEMs get a robust charging network.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How robust it'll be by the time other cars get access is now rather questionable with this firing spree

[–] banana_lama@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago

It's a headstart for a robust charging network while other charging station companies build more to catch up

[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How many non-tesla nacs charges are there?

[–] banana_lama@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How many ccs chargers are there compared to nas? That's the question that matters to GM Ford and other automakers

[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

My point is that even if nacs is open, it is a monopoly. Tomorrow Tesla decides to ask 100$ per month to access the network and you can't go somewhere else. In EU the mandatory plug is the same for everyone and Tesla chargers must have ccs2 and Tesla cars must have ccs2..

[–] banana_lama@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I understand that. But building chargers using their ports is an option and will be something that happens. It just answers the customers of other OEMs of whether to charge their cars now. And even if Tesla controls a significant portion of the charging infrastructure now there'll be others that build chargers with that standard with time. And I'm sure there was some closed door agreement they came up with on pricing

[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago

Dude it's how many years of "electrify America" project that is supposedly supported by the biggest car manufacturer and the network is terrible. Nobody will go compete with nacs because Tesla has the market penetration and it's ubiquitous. I guess the mon-tesla will change the plugs on some select locations and that's it. But we'll see how it goes with the supercharger network after musk fired the entire team...