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The former president made multiple chilling warnings during an interview with Time magazine.

Donald Trump hasn’t quite let go of the possibility of utilizing mob violence if he loses the next election.

In a sprawling interview for Time magazine, Trump hinted that leveraging political violence to achieve his end goals was still on the table.

“If we don’t win, you know, it depends,” he told Time. “It always depends on the fairness of the election.”

And from Trump’s perspective, that’s winning rhetoric. According to him, his incendiary comments supporting a mob mentality, his early warnings of forthcoming abuses of power, and his threats to be a dictator on “day one” are only inching him closer to the White House. “I think a lot of people like it,” Trump told Time.

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[–] livus@kbin.social 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yikes, forgive me if this is a naive question but how are these kinds of veiled threats against American democracy okay with Homeland Security?

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Our positions of authority are infested with conservatives.

[–] livus@kbin.social 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Makes sense. But conservativism pre-dates Trump and realistically will soon outlive him.

It seems odd to me that they are happy to have someone random dismantle bedrock US political system? Or are conservatives less keen on democracy?

Also I get the impression he doesn't have a conservative ideology himself, he seems like more of an opportunist than a believer.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Historically, unchecked conservatism leads to oppressive regimes. The conservatives here have been getting worse and worse since the civil war. When Reagan sold their party to the Christians, they basically cut the brake lines. Conservatism has been unchecked ever since.

The severity of this infection gets worse here every year. Unfortunately, if history is our guide, treating a disease like this is not a peaceful process. Maybe this time it will be different.

[–] livus@kbin.social 7 points 6 months ago

Thanks.

I always forget/underestimate the religious element in the US.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The "conservative" part of right-wing republiQan ideology was largely a lie from the start. The true goals of preserving power in the hands of rich white men were neatly folded into every "deregulation", "fiscally conservative", "tough-on-crime" and "trickle-down" talking point for forty years.

See "The Southern Strategy" for more on how important those ideals were to the GOP.

Trump's success revealed the people who voted for those things don't care a single bit about them because they could have enacted policies that would follow those supposed ideals, but instead they either did nothing or in some cases did the opposite.

"Barry Goldwater conservative" voices which had a claim to environmental protections were subsumed almost as a first act of the modern era starting with Nixon's downfall.

[–] livus@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Thanks, hadn't heard of that and it's interesting. I think the stumbling block for me is I always forget how many non-rich people want to facilitate the rich. Kind of like Salacious Crumb on the shoulder of Jabba.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Conservatives are lot just less keen on democracy; many of them are actively and openly opposed to it. For example.

[–] livus@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

I did not know that. I thought it was like, a cornerstone of American identity.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh it’s because “homeland security” is a false flag term used to spy and control their population.

Kind of like how “weapons of mass destruction” was used to fuel an entire war.

Once you’re rich enough and have enough corporate power you can do whatever you want at the expense to greater population.

[–] livus@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I was going to say CIA at first but then I remembered my parents telling me that is its own country.

Idk I feel like as citizens we need some kind of organization that protects our political systems. There's a weird assault on democracy in my country at the moment too (not coups just unconstitutional legislation) and it really highlights the dangers now that disaster capitalists are on the rise.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I agree but rich people will break up any attempt to create such a thing.