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My Pixel 5a just died after 5 months of use. Looking for a new phone I can deGoogle. (lemmy.ml)

submitted 6 months ago by inasaba@lemmy.ml to c/degoogle@lemmy.ml

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It seems that the motherboard is dead, and that it's a common issue with the 5a and I "should've known better," despite it being impossible to find decent information on phones these days.

I got it because it was the last Pixel with a headphone jack, and because it had good official LineageOS support. But I compromised: giving up the SD slot was tough for me, and now that I've been burned by not having one (I typically auto-backup my Signal history and other things to the SD card) I don't want to get another phone without it.

But the landscape seems bleak. The vast majority of phones that are officially supported by LineageOS are Pixels. It's impossible to find easy information on which phones have non-official LOS ROMs. Search results are useless these days, and I also keep running into an issue where after researching a phone for half an hour I discover that it has some arcane process to unlock the bootloader that doesn't always work, and the forum posters imply that the purchasers "should've known better." I'm just at my wit's end.

If anyone can suggest something that has decent deGoogled ROM support with the following features, I'd be very grateful:

OLED screen (a must-have for my photosensitivity)
SD card slot
I am willing to give up the headphone jack in order to expand my options

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[+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It doesnt unlock the bootloader or root your phone. Which is the most important security your phone can have. While any that root your phone leave it wide open to maid attacks

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[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

OK not sure about that will do some reasearch myself, but a photo of them saying they did it in a YouTube video is a weird piece of proof

But my point is that grapheneOS doesnt require the bootloader to be unlocked or root the phone which itself is the main defense in your phone from those attacks so unless others dont unlock the bootloader they are just worse for that reason alone. From 2022 but still relevant Article on bootloader and rooting

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[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

OK I didnt really quote him just linked an article he wrote and yeah I have some too but the article is still relavent info and you have not said anything useful or given me information to help prove your point and change my Mind I'm willing to hear the other side. So instead of attacking me. Why not attack the idea?

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[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks I will look into those more as well new to reddit and Lemmy. But who are you why should I trust you as well? Just wondering these are your write ups is all

I dont really get your last paragraph and again I didnt quote shit just sent you one fucking article . and I agree madaidian has some very intense views but. I'm not saying use grapheneOS over another customOS. From what I've read of your write up so far. I should just use stock OS because none of this changes the fact of bootloader security and root

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[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I am new to android safety and honestly the world of the internet drama I have always kept to myself but recently needed to get into this and there's mountains of data fighting for both sides. Sorry for being standoffish just tired of bs as well and sifting through years of articles and shit. What's your take om hackliberty.org?

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[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah that shit is crazy also that is just one of his moderators not the author of the site and I dont care about drama I just want the most secure phone lol

So again what's your opinion on that cause the bootloader and root argument seems strong IMO madaidian or not

[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

Cool thank you for being civil. I will start following your stuff and reading your write ups I see the issues with him but then I would like your input on the bootloader and root even with madadians crazyness that makes sense IMO that the bootloader and root are most important for security. I'm look at the Sudo arguments for linux as an example