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Thousands of exposed files on North Korean server tell the tale.

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[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

NK literally doesn't have famine because the West gives them food.

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I don’t fuck with the North Korean government but starting a population because of their leaders they can’t even elect is fucked up and our leaders are conquering the world while we pay them to do it and no one punishes us for it

why are they so poor? why is Cuba so poor? How many countries has north korea bombed? How many coups have they orchestrated around the world? How many genocides have they committed and are committing? Collective punishment is a war crime, the North Korean people and the Cuban people shouldn’t suffer and starve for the crimes of their leaders. If you think they should but don’t think we deserve punishment for them millions of innocent people or governments kill then maybe you should wonder why you think that

[–] The_Sasswagon@beehaw.org 4 points 6 months ago

Agree 100%

I think Cuba is a great example, since it's less emotional right now for most people. We've been starving those people since 1960 for what? For cooperating and allying with a country that we didn't like? For nationalizing the oil we were harvesting on their island and selling for our profit? (After we started santioning them too) 64 years of collective punishment for being too commie near our precious stolen land.

Our government does deserve blowback for what we've done in our relatively short time around. I hope it isn't taken out on the people, but if it is I guess it makes sense for how we treated everyone else.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 6 months ago

I think it is very easy to say that. If you had the US government and their allies, what would you do then?

Befriend them? Tried that got Hitler.

Eradicate them? Lost wars in Vietnam and Afghanistan and Korea over the same thing.

Let them be? And if they start accruing power and their way of being is a threat to yours, what then?

I'm not saying I agree but you act as if it is assault or something

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not even remotely relevant to what op said.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 3 points 6 months ago

This commenter is suggesting people treat the US like they treat NK.

US - NK relations are very one sided. US is offering aid and NK is offering threats. From my understanding the country lives in a hard mix of ignorance and fear because of their government. NK also threatens our allies with nuclear destruction. We still present them with aid.

It is fun and cute to point at all the stuff the US does wrong but I can literally change my president, I can speak ill of them and the information they hide often still comes to light so for OP to suggest people treat the US like that they're choosing to frame them as equals when they're really not. World isn't perfect but the US government is miles above the NK one in basically all regards.

If NK had the money and the US had the famine I don't think they'd be offering aid to the American populace in the same way the US does.

So yes it is extremely relevant to consider how you'd be treated if the roles were reversed and then you understand why these sanctions are in place. NK is no ally and most of their positions on international affairs are simply anti-west.