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[–] FlanFlinger@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's a bullshit test when every vehicle tested has a different size battery, they'd have been better off listing what the kwh/100km figures were for motorway driving.

But as you say, charging speed is more of a factor

[–] Galluf@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That doesn't make it a bullshit test. It makes it a different test. IMO range is more important than efficiency.

And if DCFC stations were everywhere, then I'd agree that would be more of a factor. But given that a 15 mile difference in range can be the difference between 100 miles between stops and 200 miles between stops, I'd still say range is more important than charge speed.

Doubly so since the highest range EVs are also among the highest charging speed EVs.

[–] Gordon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...a 15 mile difference in range can be the difference between 100 miles between stops and 200 miles between stops...

I'm going to need you to explain your math here, because a 15 mile difference in range is the difference between 100 miles between stops and... Well, 115 miles between stops.

[–] Galluf@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As I stated, DCFC stations aren't available everywhere. They're often 100+ miles apart. So it doesn't matter if you can make it 185 miles between subsequent charge stops with a comfortable buffer if your only DCFC options are at 100 miles at 200 miles. You're stuck stopping at the 100 mile stop.

[–] Gordon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, yeah, but the better way to have said that would be 200 miles vs 185 miles means stopping at the 100 vs 200.

Idk about your area but there are supercharger stations all over the place around here, and many shopping centers have slower free chargers.

Some highway rest stops have put in charging stations (various levels).

And the truth is that for most people for most needs, an 80 mile range is more than enough.

I've considered buying an EV "city car" and keeping my ICE for long trips, but even most trips we take are less than 3 hours, so an EV would still work, you'd just have to stop halfway.

[–] Galluf@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Around town DCFC are irrelevant for most EV owners since they chsgre at some.

I don't know if that's an honest mistake or if you're just making up things since there are no rest stops with DCFC. It's against the law to do that on public rest stops.

[–] Gordon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~Idk if it's fast charge but there are highway rest stops with charging stations. I never checked what kind it is~~

Apparently there arent, I swear I've seen them but I can't find the one I'm thinking about.

[–] FlanFlinger@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's a German test by a German news service, rest stops with DCFC units are very common, as they are throughout the rest of Europe

[–] Galluf@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I should have made it clear I was primarily talking about the DCFC situation in the US. Europe is better off since they're more population dense and their trips tend to be lower mileage.