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Edit: Image is from this Reuters article deconstructing Trump's latest rally.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

It’s a shame that liberals expect so much more from their candidates. It leads to a party that gets fractured and just hands the win to Republicans.

Considering our country already gives Republicans a head start with the electoral college, gerrymandering and the senate structure, this fracturing makes it even more difficult for liberals to win.

2016 did so much to screw over liberals. Not just with the president, but with the senate and statewide elections. I honestly believe liberals won’t survive another Trump presidency.

Edit: and Supreme Court… Dems should have had a 5-4 advantage if they just voted for a shitty candidate. Now we will likely be in the minority there for decades.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Dems should have had a 5-4 advantage if they just voted for a shitty candidate.

I was there voting for the shitty candidate in 2016 and everyone else was blabbering about emails and how Trump could never win so why bother voting?

Edit: In 2024 the same morons are blabbering on about genocide Joe and encouraging people to vote for third parties and shit here on Lemmy.

[–] Username02@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Why bother voting" is the reason Trump gets into the office the first place.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Ti honestly believe the disapproval of Israel will be what gets Trump in office this year. Which is ironic cause he supports Israel even more and is even more antagonistic towards Iran. He moved the embassy fully validating Israel and invalidating Palestine.

Also he ended the Iran nuclear agreement for no good reason then attacked a high ranking Iranian official right before the pandemic started. He would be all on board with world war 3.

[–] bobburger@fedia.io 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It really boggles the mind. Conservatives are single issue voters, and they show up so their shitty single issue gets a huge amount of attention from candidates.

Progressives are all-issue voters, meaning if a candidate doesn't support ALL of their issues then the progressive stays home. As a result, candidates pay attention to none of their issues and progress is slow.

Progressives also view voting as a moral issue, i.e. if you vote for Joe Biden you're literally committing genocide and all the bad stuff that happens while Biden is president is your fault. In the same breath they'll tell you how helping Trump get elected by suppressing the vote isn't their fault and somehow absolve themselves of the moral implications of a Trump presidency.

No one slows down progress as much as progressives.

[–] shikitohno@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Surely, not punching left hard enough has been the one thing holding back liberals from winning. Remember to really get your hips into it if you want to beat Trump this time.

Meanwhile, nobody makes excuses quite like liberals. You give them warning months in advance that they're fielding unpopular candidates with policies many Democratic voters don't support, and when they lose, liberals come out to go, "It's everyone else who's wrong, not me."