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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by Linkerbaan@lemmy.world to c/microblogmemes@lemmy.world
 
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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Biden already told Israel the US will not join Israel in a counter-striker and has asked Israel to take the interception of most of the attack as a victory and let it go.

That doesn't sound like much, but Bush or Trump would have already hit Iran by now and escalated everything.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

Biden blocked UN condemnation of the israeli strike on the embassy and according to an israeli journalist America spent 1 Billion dollars to intercept the counter attack from Iran.

Biden provides israel with the jets and weapons to bomb Iran and defends israel against any retaliation.

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I would imagine that Americans are chuffed that genocidal Israelis are safe while they can't get health care.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

I. Fucking. Wish.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 7 months ago

Providing weapons is wrong, but defending them isn't.

A billion dollars is fuck all if it stops Israel escalating. Harder to do that if Tel Aviv has a bunch of craters in it.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

And that's why you shouldn't pay american taxes. Just fucking don't.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You do realize that in that context "Take the missiles being intercepted as a victory and back down" is a threat to let the misses through next time if Israel doesn't back down.

Stopping the missiles in this case was a pure win for the US. We kept innocent civilians from dying, made Iran look weaker, and kept Israel from having a stronger excuse to start fighting more neighbors.

It's taking longer than we like, but more and more people are coming around on this issue. If those missiles had landed, it would have undone 6 months of progress and all political progress towards reigning in Isreal would have ceased.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Iran never intended to overwhelm air defenses. The only launched a few hundred drones. The iron domes weakness has been obvious since oct7. Just overwhelm it with cheap projectiles.

This was a well calculated response from Iran that did show retaliation but not cause escalation. I wouldn't call it a US win is it is what Iran intended. Still very expensive for the US.

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

Iron dome can't do shit against ballistics, ballistics need much more expensive interceptors.

Anyway, Iran did penetrate their defenses with Kheybarshekan Hypersonics which aren't even the latest generation, in case of a real war Israel will be fucked thoroughly

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago

Iran and the US have both been pretty savvy in recent conflicts. Iran's response to Trump's assassination of a general back in 2020 was one of the best I've seen. They launched an attack on an empty portion of a US military base so they could say they retaliated without giving the US cause to do anything else.

Of course they fucked that up right afterwards by shooting down a civilian plane...