US President Joe Biden has condemned Iranian attacks on military facilities in Israel, pledging a coordinated Group of Seven (G7) diplomatic response while highlighting the United States’s help in taking down “nearly all” of the attacking drones and missiles.
Biden, who cut short a trip to Delaware and returned to Washington, DC to meet advisers over the late Saturday night attack, said in a statement released by the White House that the US forces and facilities had not been hit.
The US president said he reiterated the “ironclad” support for Israel’s security in a call with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, with whom he has had strained relations over Israel’s handling of the war in Gaza.
“Tomorrow, I will convene my fellow G7 leaders to coordinate a united diplomatic response to Iran’s brazen attack,” he said.
“And while we have not seen attacks on our forces or facilities today, we will remain vigilant to all threats and will not hesitate to take all necessary action to protect our people,” he said.
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US is gonna go to war against Iran aren't they? And over something as stupid as protecting israel's genocide.
First Thought made a great video on what that could look like
Jesus Christ the opening to that video had me guessing for a moment until I calmed down and realized it's obviously a hypothetical. Given that it's reported that Iranian officials consider their attack "concluded", it would be great if all the players stepped away from escalation into open war. The video I linked talks about the pressure on both Iran and Israel to back down, and here's hoping they do. The world really really doesn't need yet another open war in the Middle East, USA-involved or otherwise.
Yeah I also thought for a second I had somehow missed a fucking nuclear bombing
I have no sympathy for any US soldiers who die defending genocidal states.
They don't get a choice. That's on us.
They do get a choice. They willingly joined an organization with a terrible track record.
After growing up in a soup of propaganda? Where many of them have no other means to escape poverty?
And it would have a better track record if we didn't use it so badly.
Still a choice, I choose to live in poverty over joining the military. Tens of millions of Americans living in poverty make that choice.
Yeah I'm talking about the track record. I'm not disputing that joining in the first place is a choice. It's also only got that track record because of the people we elect.
I highly doubt that there is no career option or field for them to go into other than mass murder. It doesn't even pay that well! It's just mid pay with good benefits.
Would you excuse someone becoming a hitman for the money? A mass murderer is far worse.
Nope, not really. Not unless you get lucky. The US is really bad about the whole socioeconomic mobility thing. And the idea that everyone in the military is a murderer is debatable at best. You also haven't really thought about the information environment in which a poor, badly educated, 18 year old reaches the recruiters office. They see the military as both a way out and a noble calling. And why wouldn't they? People around them have put soldiers on pedestals their entire life.
It's not until later they get a look at what being in really means and by that point they're trapped until the end of their enlistment. Which is why it's on us to elect representatives that will stop abusing the military.
If recruiters for hitmen and assassins were everywhere and reached everyone easily, I still wouldn't sympathize with those who thought its a good idea. Even if the recruits were spreading propaganda, I will judge anyone who falls for it.
Do you apply the same logic to those who join islamist terror organizations? Most of these organizations use even more propaganda tactics. They prey on troubled young people and convince them that they are embarking on a righteous mission. Their propaganda is even more powerful as it relates to religion, which is closer to one's heart than patriotism typically.
At least in the military, you will immediately see that whatever they promised you is wrong. You'll immediately see you're attacking other countries that aren't a threat to your people. Terror organizations will still see people they were convinced to be sinners, standing in their way of establishing the kingdom of God.
I don't sympathize with either
That's the thing. The vast majority of the military doesn't attack anyone unless we're in a war. They just train. And yeah there's a bit of a difference between religious terrorists and soldiers.
The military has been in some war of another almost my entire lifetime. That's not even counting when they're doing messy proxy shit like advising opposition militias.
US will play defense unless Iran does something really stupid and launches a large ballistic missile attack of some kind, or directly attacks US military. Even then, proportional response policy would probably mean strikes against missile facilities only.
No amount of drones sent against Israel will result in the US opening an actual war with Iran.
I think it would be an incredibly unpopular decision by Biden, and the American people would not support a war with Iran. I also think that it would be a tactical mistake, given how many US assets are within Iranian striking distance right now. The US military is having recruiting issues currently, and a war will not help that.
However, I wouldn't be surprised to see ISIS attacks in Iran start to happen more frequently.
Of course it will be more sanctions, more pressure to other countries to denounce Iran, more proxy war with funding literal terrorist groups and telling them to hit whoever the US doesn't like, also probably bomb a few Iranian assests because what actually can they do?
An open war rather requires justified claims. It is gruesome and the horrible results are directly tied to the war. A combination of sinister proxy war, subterfuge, coercion and forced poverty are slow killers and will have way fewer dissidents. It is the name of the game for half of the US ~~oppression~~ policing on the world.
The US military is even having materiel supply issues.
What the fuck are they going to bomb Iran with? They lost all their weapons and ammo giving it to Ukraine to waste and for Israel to use for genocide. Honestly, Iran is going to wipe the fucking floor with US.
I feel like that wouldn't go down well if the US government tried that.
Maybe I don't understand the average American, but it's certainly seemed like people realized the last wars in the Middle East were a waste of time and life.
This might've mattered if the state worked for the people, but the only people a bourgois/liberal "democracy" serves are the capitalists. And the US MIC would love more war.
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