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They've been doing it for DECADES

AMERICAN COWS ARE MUNCHING AWAY AT BUCKETS OF CHICKEN SHIT RIGHT NOW

AND IT MADE THE NEW PLAGUE

WE FED THE COWS THE BIRD DOODOO

pennsylvania has closed its borders

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[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

how do vegans get enough protein (for me, 3 servings per day of at least 20g each) without getting tired of constantly eating beans? it seems boring to the point of being depressing

this sounds like a joke but it's unironically probably my biggest barrier to going vegan right now

Death to America

[–] dat_math@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

getting tired of constantly eating beans

skill issue tbh

practice cooking more and with a greater variety of flavor profiles. Pick a culture whose food you like and learn a few bean based recipes from that culture. If you like indian food, try a few different daals or curries with tofu, broccoli, cauliflower.

also, nuts exist.

edit correction:

broccoli has ~~about as much~~ more than half the protein per calorie of tofu

cauliflor and brussels sprouts have similar ratios

mushrooms have ~~tons~~ almost as much protein per calorie as tofu

[–] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

broccoli has about as much protein per calorie as tofu

Holy shit

[–] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

according to the usda

Fried tofu has 270kcal per 100g and 18.8g of protein ~0.07g/kcal

Fried broccoli has 223kcal per 100g and 4g protein ~ 0.02g/kcal

Raw firm tofu has 144kcal per 100g and 17.3g of protein ~ 0.12g/kcal

Raw broccoli has 39kcal per 100g and 2.6g protein ~ 0.07g/kcal

The claim isnt true. While the raw numbers are fairly comparable (even then its a 70% increase from broc to tofu), no one is eating raw fucking anything. I dont disagree with the skill issue part. 20g protein is absurdly easy to get when you remember bread and pasta has like 7g protein per 100g, and the wide variety of legume based cuisunes should probably never get stale to be boring, but the idea that broccoli is a protein rich food is laughable.

Also what mushrooms have tons of protein, all mushrooms i look at have the same as broccoli!

Beech mushroom: 2g/100g

Crimini mushroom: 3g/100g

Enoki mushroom: 2.4g/100g

Maitake mushroom: 2.4g/100g

Oyster mushroom 2.9g/100g

Pioppini mushroom: 3.5g/100g

Portabella mushroom: 2.8g/100g

Shiitake mushroom: 2.4g/100g

etc etc etc

[–] dat_math@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Thanks for the correction!

My memory of the protein contents of broccoli ~~and mushrooms~~ was a bit exaggerated, but I maintain that for their protein contents, I'd rather eat more broccoli and mushrooms than bread or pasta.

I'm no nutritional scientist or body builder, so my dietary planning is almost certainly too simple and vague to be anywhere close to optimal: keep total calories < a dynamic amount determined by vibes and how much activity I've done that day (on my last backpacking trip it was almost 3000kcal/day because I was walking 10+ miles a day with 30 lbs on my back, but most days it's closer to half that) and otherwise get 80-100g of protein per day distributed as uniformly as I can throughout the day.

This is a reproduction of the spreadsheet I misremembered that I made few years ago when I started thinking more seriously about my health and nutrition:

edit: fixed an error in my calculation of oyster mushroom nutrient per kcal cells; it's on par with whole grain bread and tofu and has more fiber than the latter

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Protein per calorie" is a bit of a cherry-picked metric, tbh. No one is eating 1000 calories of broccoli in a sitting.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No one is eating 1000 calories of broccoli in a sitting

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[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

If you are eating 3 kg of broccoli in a sitting, my hat is on the floor for you

[–] Azarova@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

Seitan makes a really good vegan protein as long as you don't have a gluten sensitivity hail-seitan