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[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 65 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Can I ask a sincere question? whats a tech sociopath apologist, could you demonstrate an example?

Again, im sincerely genuinely asking

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 61 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Someone who takes it on themselves to act as apologist for the words/actions of tech sociopaths

Often seen as “weird nerds coming to defense of $x” (such as musk, or in this case the kagi dudebro)

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 48 points 8 months ago (2 children)

(And then I glanced at your post history and noticed a trend of JAQing off so I now doubt whether you’re sincere in asking)

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 22 points 8 months ago
[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Im not sure what JAQing is.

I appreciate your response thanks

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

JAQing

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions first hit (on google ;) ) which has a good explanation.

E: And I don't meant this post as a 'just fucking google it' or 'educate yourself' (well a little bit) but more to show there is more to this accusation of JAQing than just some way to shut you down. The method is used by bad faith actors a lot, so it is a pattern of behavior a lot of people react negatively too. So, assuming you are acting in good faith, it is a good way to learn why people are reacting to you like you are a bit of an bad faith actor. And if you are a bad faith actor, I only wasted a little bit of my time typing this out so nothing really lost.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I call that doing a "Tucker Carlson."

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I had a weird brainfart a while back when I realized that Carlson reminds me of this guy.

The bad faith 'bugs that think are offensive' debate guy from starship troopers. He even wears a bow tie!

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

He does jaq off pretty constantly.

[–] Crazazy@feddit.nl 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Short for Just Asking Questions. Where people ask loaded questions that act as a veneer to their actual statements. If you want to accuse them of the fact they are talking shit, they'll say they're "just skeptical" and "asking questions"

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just asking questions here, but do you think a wolverine would beat a mechabadger?

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 8 months ago

yes, I’ve seen it

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

that wasnt my intention. It was simply a phrase I hadn’t heard

[–] Crazazy@feddit.nl 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

that wasn't my intention

Ironically, by saying that you're just doing The Thing again

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Catch 22. Nothing else I can say 🤷‍♀️

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 24 points 8 months ago

I mean yeah, it kind of is. Unfortunately when folks impersonate the clueless in bad faith the people who legitimately don't know stuff tend to get caught in the crossfire, and I say this as someone who is frequently clueless.

Best advice I can offer is to develop a thick skin about it and be willing to put the work in if someone helps you find the keywords to look up. The more of the background you can find yourself the better equipped you'll be to ask specific questions that are less likely to be suspected for JAQing us around.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 8 months ago

Nothing else, in all of the English language or otherwise! Oh, woe betide, the fates served upon them this fateful day, to be so choiceless in their utterance, cast afloat in all creation!

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The Thing in question has an element of intent that the user doesn't exhibit in this thread, or any of their history. Simply asking questions isn't JAQing off.

[–] aio@awful.systems 10 points 8 months ago

Simply asking questions would be SAQing off, which is totally different.

[–] self@awful.systems 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

maybe they caught a ban cause of their weird fucking vibes and cause they couldn’t help but thread a bunch of low-effort garbage into a moderator announcement

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You can always look at the modlog. Only bans the user in question has are almost a month old from a conservative community for not being conservative and a furry community for saying "furries 🤢."

[–] self@awful.systems 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

yeah the anti-furry shit would’ve been enough to catch a ban from here, and I’m kinda sorry you’re ok with it

but I’m gonna be honest, you seem exhausting and your only contribution to this instance has been assigning our admins homework. I think it’s best you move on

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 8 months ago

we really don't care