I think there was only one that suggests pressing the lock door button. But apparently that’s not a universal feature because most of the suggestions tell him to press a button on the touch screen console

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[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 45 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

It's true. I've been telling people recently that I'm not looking forward to whenever I end up buying a new car. My car has a key that unlocks the doors, and sticks into the steering column to turn the car on. I can pull that key out and kill the car in the process, and that process is all mechanical (to my knowledge, anyway). It doesn't even have that "OnStar" shit in it. So no GPS connections, no satellite link-ups. The most advanced thing it has is a tiny backup camera and BT in the radio.

The next car I buy might as well come with fedposting as the copilot.

Every modern car is just this, but for real:

edit: and one more thing! The amount of lawsuits Tesla has been subject to where they pull out the data logs for the victim's car and weaponize it against them is fucking insane. The fact that we know that it was shown that Teslas deactivate Autopilot seconds before a crash, and as far as I know nothing was done about it, doesn't make me interested in a fucking 7 ton computer that drives at highway speeds. They have used that "data" to say that people killed while using FSD had "Disabled Autopilot" which means their software wasn't at fault. Or they'll just say that the logs were lost but it definitely wasn't FSD that was at fault.

Edit again! I'm fired up here!

THIS WILL BE MY NEXT CAR, COME HELL OR HIGH WATER!

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

are the logs not available on the car itself??? At this point there should be a law mandating something about the integrity and authenticity of the logs.

[–] charlie@hexbear.net 32 points 7 months ago

We can’t even get cops to keep their body cameras on despite laws about it, joke country.

[–] bleepbloopbop@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

your car most likely has a black box of sorts if it's new enough to have OEM backup camera and bluetooth. https://rislone.com/blog/general/does-my-car-have-a-black-box/

However it's not remotely operated and not going to kill you, but it could rat on you to the police/your insurance. Its just as likely to exonerate you though I guess. Far less scummy overall

[–] bleepbloopbop@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

My solution to this was to stop driving lol. Newest car I ever owned was a 2003, now I have an ebike that's about as dumb as a box of rocks. Most sophisticated thing in it is the motor controller.

The nearby carshare system is even worse though when I do have to get a car, they have a lot of the new whiz bang tracking features, in addition to literally being lojacked and having cameras with video and audio facing front and back.

[–] macerated_baby_presidents@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh shit. You can't rent a car to do crimes anymore can you.

[–] bleepbloopbop@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

mixed bag but it probably hasn't been a great idea for ages. I haven't actually seen cameras in regular rental cars yet but I'm certain they gps track them at least. Same with rental trucks from the hardware store. Seems like fleet vehicles were the first to get the cameras (and attendant machine learning monitoring your driving), but it's spreading. And its all 4G streaming video too (probably with some significant limits for bandwidth purposes, maybe it only streams a low res by default or slow stream of thumbnails)

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

I know where the cellular transceiver is in my car. I had to really root around to find where it was. I haven't removed it because you have to take the whole console apart and even then disabling it involves some iffy wiring fuckery, and I've just never had the gumption to actually do it (depression sucks for opsec).

But it's there. I figured out that it was there when I got e-mails containing information that could only have come from someone with remote access to the car. I have no idea what other capabilities are hidden in the software but at the very least it can tattle on me to unknown third parties. I hate it so much.

predictably, when I was asking around on forums to find out how to disable it, everyone on the forums though I was a quack. : p