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I mean, people use dash-cams protect themselves in case of a car crash, so do you think people in the future would also use body-cams protect themselves in case of being involved in a fight?

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[โ€“] user_Blue@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's already the case in neighborhoods and apartment/townhome complexes, Amazon's Ring. Can't walk down the street without being recorded on both sides by at least 50% of front doors / driveways. Amazon who was recently caught allowing employees to view hundreds of women's home camera feeds (even indoor cameras, since the average person doesn't fully consider how much a single company can spy on you when there's a camera/microphone reporting directly to their servers).

[โ€“] Tordoc@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very true, I forgot about the doorbell cameras! Neighbors on FB will often post their camera footage when a "suspicious" (read: black or young) person drives by

[โ€“] user_Blue@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sooner or later, it'll be borderline impossible to talk a stroll without being captured on a video somewhere. I wonder how disguises/masks might evolve to counteract. And if any scene occurs, you'd better bet there'll be at least one phone camera pointed at it.

[โ€“] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Look up "Justice Caps" and "Hacker Hoodie". Infrared anti-camera apparel

[โ€“] user_Blue@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I await the day whenever secure, self-hosted services are the norm instead of centralized, proprietary services.

[โ€“] cynar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Humans are lazy. Having someone else set up all the details is a lot easier than doing it yourself. Until we fundamentally change the human condition, it will be a losing battle. The best we can likely do is limit the damage and reduce the difficulty of taking the better road.

[โ€“] user_Blue@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if there happened to be an extremely determined individual who's dream is to change "the human condition?" Sure it will be a losing battle in the beginning, but a battle fought doesn't determine a war. Especially if it's a war that's been waged over our entire history. The market would also have to shift towards simple to deploy, self-hosted, free (as in freedom) open-source devices. Once everyone understands why a little effort can go a very long way, then I'm sure we can all actually change for better; for our future.

[โ€“] cynar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For seasoned self hosters, it's a little effort. For novices it's more work. For the initiated, it's a huge effort, for no apparent gain.

We are fighting the Nash equilibrium, and I can't see how we can adjust it in favour of self host etc. It's better to fight the battles we can win, than pour effort after the impossible. In this case, it's to provide an independent option that is as low effort as possible. This can become a reference to keep the excesses of the big companies limited, to some degree.

[โ€“] Valmond@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Today it might be as much a hassle as to assemble a micro computer in the eighties, but I bet it will be one as easy as filming with your mobile phone in the future.

[โ€“] cynar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Question for you, what percentage of people now build their own computers? It's far less than it used to be.

[โ€“] Valmond@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The point was that in the future it will be easy to set up surveillance cameras

[โ€“] cynar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It already is extremely easy. It's easy due to companies hiding the complexity. Unfortunately, those companies operate in a capitalist system. Until either the whole system changes (unlikely) or human nature changes (very unlikely) they will always drift towards data mining.

[โ€“] harmonea@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Secure, self-hosted services take knowledge to set up. Everyone wants a plug-and-play solution.

[โ€“] user_Blue@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

What if, over time, we focused on plug-and-play, free (freedom), open-source solutions? Take framework laptops as an example. There was a problem with laptops being difficult to self-service, so they developed a solution. Sure, not THE solution, but progress in the right direction means a lot. As long as we can recognize the faults in centralized services. (Spread relatable awareness), and care enough to support action which further develops decentralization.