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[–] wagesof@links.wageoffsite.com 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So they know the problem, pay increase isn't worth the bullshit surrounding the promotion, and they know the fix.

Will they create more stable schedules or bump the pay to make it worth their captain's time?

Fuck no. Let's just cancel a bunch of flights because no one wants to work

[–] AnotherPerson@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then bitch about it publicly to try and create pressure on the pilots. Sorry UA, the class warfare stuff is out of the bag, I'm with the pilots

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unless you think the airline can just eat the cost of raises, I'm not so sure it's a simple case of class warfare. Airlines operate on very thin margins, so any increase in costs would have to lead to increased prices for customers.

[–] wagesof@links.wageoffsite.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Airlines make record profits every year, and are run on razor thin margins. The wildest thing is that the flights themselves are a loss leader for the insanely profitable travel points scam they've been running since the 60s.

Stop extracting 80% of the profits for the investment class from the tourism industry and paying the pilots triple their current wages would be simple.

Never believe a corporation when they complain about labor costs. It's always a lie

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop extracting 80% of the profits for the investment class from the tourism industry and paying the pilots triple their current wages would be simple.

not that simple. stop extracting profits, then no one wants ownership of the company anymore.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

so you’re jumping from a relatively minor quirk in labor staffing to a socialist takeover of a multibillion dollar business. be realistic, it ain’t happening.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Other than employees already run the business.

[–] AnotherPerson@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Stop carrying water for millionaires.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

But how will they stay rich?

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i’m not carrying water for millionaires, just being realistic about the capitalist world we live in.

[–] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If everyone "stays realistic" about the way the world is then the reality is the world stays the way it is. If enough people expect the unrealistic outcome then maybe it could be real.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

firstly, you don't have "enough" socialists to make that kind of change, and secondly if you're stuck in an idealist mindset then you may miss on good solutions just because they aren't perfect in your opinion.

[–] Galluf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You obviously didn't read the article as creating more stable schedules is exactly what they're doing.

Is it enough, probably not. But let's not make up lies.