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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You just kinda listed bad website compatibility like 5 times. That's not even true lol, it's very rare there's a compatibility issue, and it's also very rare that websites refuse to support it. Can't think of any right now actually.

Most of the issues is because Chrome actually incorrectly adds something, or has a bug. Then for compatibility sake, Firefox has to actually match that broken buggy implementation so the end result is the same. This is another big reason why a chromium monopoly is bad.

Also the Android UX being bad is just funny to me. I find it by far the best, and you should absolutely not be speaking for other people. Would like to know what actual browser you think has better UX? Considering it's been so long since they changed the UI, I think you must've forgotten how truly bad it was before. Also that they added support back for some missing stuff people wanted, like grid list for tabs.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You just kinda listed bad website compatibility like 5 times. That’s not even true lol, it’s very rare there’s a compatibility issue, and it’s also very rare that websites refuse to support it. Can’t think of any right now actually.

Happens often enough. Just the other day I tried to watch something on joyn.de (a TV streaming service) and the videos just wouldn't play on Firefox. Had to actually switch over to Chromium to get it working.

Most of the issues is because Chrome actually incorrectly adds something, or has a bug. Then for compatibility sake, Firefox has to actually match that broken buggy implementation so the end result is the same. This is another big reason why a chromium monopoly is bad.

That's a frequently stated topic that's suspiciously always lacking any sources. Also, if you have >50% market share and if your engine has >75% market share, is there something like "incorrectly adding" something? Incorrectly as stated by whom? By the makers of a browser with <3% market share?

This is another big reason why a chromium monopoly is bad.

Well, if everyone is using Chromium, there is no such thing as an engine that has to implement someone else's stuff.

Tbh, I really don't miss the early 2010's when web development meant you had to test on 10 different engines

Also the Android UX being bad is just funny to me. I find it by far the best, and you should absolutely not be speaking for other people. Would like to know what actual browser you think has better UX? Considering it’s been so long since they changed the UI, I think you must’ve forgotten how truly bad it was before. Also that they added support back for some missing stuff people wanted, like grid list for tabs.

Just to check, I reinstalled the old version of FF and the UX is amazing compared to the current one. It really is. If you want one that is closely comparable, checkout Vivaldi. FF feels like a student's hobby project compared to it.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Never heard of that site nor can I test it, I'll just take your word since I can't find any examples myself. Clearly a bit toxic against Firefox here lol.

Web market share doesn't mean anything. Web follows standards decided by w3c that every web renderer follows. None of them get it exactly right because web browsers are extremely complicated and there's all sorts of edge cases. When Chrome or Firefox have mismatching behavior, the one following w3c is correct, the other one is objectively bugged. This is not opinion, this is following documented and mutually-agreed standards. Which Google and Mozilla are both on the w3c commitiee. I'll let you look into if you care. This also doesn't mean that Chrome will fix all their bugs either.

Just going to disagree with you with the UX because it's clearly subjective, but modern UX design heavily disagrees with you. Having a single visible button for every possible action is not good. It's a waste of space and clutter if it can be condensed or moved to a more intuitive action/gesture. More screen space the better.