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[–] brawleryukon@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The main problem with any sort of discussion like this is that "better" is going to mean different things to different people.

Is the one with longer battery life better?

Is the one with more powerful hardware better?

Is the one with trackpads better?

Is the one that can play non-Steam games with less hassle better, even if its UX is overall clunkier?

Is the one with a smoother UX better, even if you might not be able to play every single game you own on it?

Deck is going to be better in some ways for some people, and the Ally (et al.) will be better in some ways for other people. At the end of the day, the entire market segment is better for all of us because competing devices exist. Trying to turn this into a zero-sum turf war is only going to be detrimental to everyone. (Not saying that that's what you are doing, just speaking in general about what tends to happen when comparisons like this get brought up.)

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, honestly I pre-ordered the Deck and felt like it was a real gamble at the time. Like, "no way it's going to be able to play many major titles - especially given the dearth of AAA games on Linux - but I want to support the idea and am willing to give it a shot".

Then I got it and frankly I was amazed, not just at what portable hardware can do but also at the amount of work Valve has contributed towards the software side, Proton in particular. A year since I got it and award-winning AAA games run nicely. Not always out-the-gate but that's an issue for many systems.

Even if the Ally is better hardware (and I can't say one way or the other) Valve was the first to make a real investment in a hardware ecosystem for real portable PC gaming (no, I'm not counting cheap Chinese systems running dodgy software).

Also, kudos to AMD for the chip powering the thing, as it's a pretty damn good balance between power output and consumption.

[–] limeaide@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Same, I saw it as a gamble. I set my preorder, and saved up for the following months until the device released.

I had been looking into this space for years wishing it would get better and cheaper. It's the only thing that I have been willing to preorder and be a "beta" tester for in several years

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The OS makes the steam deck better than any other handheld since all the others just ship with windows and I cannot imagine using windows on a gaming handheld like this. Yes I would love it if my deck had USB4 andother fun up to date hardware, but the OS is the best part about it for now anyway.

[–] brawleryukon@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The OS makes the steam deck better than any other handheld

Agreed, but with the addition of "for me" at the end there. What makes it better for you and me is going to be a drawback for someone who only plays, say, Destiny 2, Fortnite, or things that are on Game Pass Ultimate.

Yeah, that theoretical person is going to have an absolute garbage time navigating the OS itself, but that's what they have to put up with to be able to play the games they want on a handheld PC. They might very well find that trade-off worthwhile, and it's not for us to tell them they're wrong.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Thats what remote play is for. If you wanna play those games seriously then maybe just keep using your computer.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Ally is better at all the things that don't really matter, in my opinion.

[–] brawleryukon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

in my opinion.

That being the key phrase.

My opinion pretty much aligns with yours, but the point is that no one can make sweeping objective statements about which is better (like this article and so many others try to do) since different things matter to different people. A variety of different options in the market is only a good thing.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Sure I understand and agree with you. I was just elaborating.