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"Every previous president would have ended it by now."

"Biden literally couldn't do worse."

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[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 7 months ago (83 children)

Donald Trump is Genocide at home and abroad.

Joe Biden is "only" Genocide abroad, and probably less of it.

Therefore, a vote for Joe Biden is a Vote against genocide.

No, it doesn't matter that he's an active participant in the apparatus that's creating the genocide, because if he's in office there's less genocide. Which is the important part, and pretending otherwise is sophistry. If you abstain from voting, you are increasing the likelihood of more genocide and if you discourage others from voting, you are an active participant in the overall social apparatus that is probabilistically increasing the amount of genocide.

The utility calculation is dead simple: more votes for Biden in key states makes more genocide less likely, and discouraging people from voting for Biden makes more genocide more likely. Therefore, discouraging people from voting for Biden is a pro-genocide strategy and voting for Biden in battleground states is an anti-genocide strategy. You should vote for Biden unless you live in a solid blue state, and even then it's not a bad idea.

TLDR: if you encourage people to not vote for Biden, that's supporting genocide. Accelerationism never works for us.

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

Basically just the trolley problem, but the tracks are already aligned to killing fewer people. There is a vote on whether to divert the trolley to the track which would kill more people or stay the course. Is there blood on your hands if you abstained and convinced others to abstain which resulted in a win for changing tracks?

Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.

-- John Stuart Mill

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[–] WamGams@lemmy.ca 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Be careful, you might have the 5 real users of Lemmy.ml use their 500 accounts to harass you for posting this.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I just blocked the whole instance when they removed my comment pointing out that Al Jazeera might not be unbiased in the matters of Hamas vs Israel, because they are funded by Qatar who also shelter Hamas leaders.

And even Al Jazeera think Trump would be an even bigger fucking disaster for Palestine.

[–] WamGams@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Wait, we can block whole instances ourselves? I think that might be my vest option.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, as long as you're on 0.19 I think, which most instances will be by now.

[–] WamGams@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

Thank you for this!

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You think that hasn't already happened? 😂

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