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My pick would be, dealing with the 'wild west' atmosphere. That being, before cyber bullying laws existed, you had bunches of people getting off scot-free with telling you to off yourself or call you a list of derogatory terms.

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[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Remember the time before we had HTML5 or worse, Flash?

Flash is bad enough. But what about Shockwave? Java? Or Java 1.4 (that was a big update IIRC). A whole slew of different ActiveX plugins to download/install/debug each time you wanted to visit a different webpage?

Javascript back then was so primitive you couldn't even do XMLHttpRequests, so that necessitated the use of rich plugins to deliver a better browsing experience. But it was incredibly non-standard and non-consolidated.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First Gmail and then Google Maps were amazing. In a world where webpages looked like ass and any interesting technology required a plugin, those two apps were mind-blowing.

When someone in my lab told me about Gmail, I thought it would be a janky mess. How could a web page be good? But it was. It was great. It felt almost like a native app.

Then Google Maps came around. After MapQuest, I was expecting goofy tiles and weird hot spots to click on. Nope. They hit it out of the park again. Zooming in and out was... fluid.

Those were good days.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

XMLHttpRequest had to be invented before GMail could exist.

But yeah, Gmail was the first online webapp that I personally used that extensively used XMLHttpRequest (aka: Javascript's function for "automatically fetch more data from the server")


Before that point, you wore out your F5 key waiting for new emails. Gmail comes out and "magic", the new data just arrives because Javascript is hitting the F5 key in the background for you.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't miss Java. Fuck Java.

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You'll pry "Slime Volleyball" away from my cold, dead, fingers. Also Minecraft, which I believe was as Java applet first. Also Robocode.

So many good Java things in that old web...

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

Minecraft, which I believe was as Java applet first

It was indeed! I remember playing it that way.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Today, Flash can be played using a browser extension, written in Rust, that translates the Flash code into WebAssembly (Wasm). This can also be embedded in a web site; this is used by e.g. https://homestarrunner.com to play old toons & games.

https://ruffle.rs/

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] fubo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Checkin' my email with the lightswitch rave,
Checkin' my email, make your moms behave.

[–] Okalaydokalay@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s funny how common it was to come to a webpage that required a download to view the webpage (Flash, etc.) and now I can’t remember the last time that happened.

[–] IronicViking@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Realplayer and qt where always a pain to get installed correctly

[–] dragontamer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're making me remember codecs.

Remember when DivX finally unified us upon MPEG2 and that codec just worked? Forget Youtube videos, I'm talking just making videos in general usable on the internet.

Kids these days don't even know what they've missed. Non-standard video formats. Ugggh. With everyone smoothly using mp4 or AV1 these days, life is so much better.

[–] soulifix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I remembered for audio projects, the .WMA format was the bane of everyone's existence.

[–] Okalaydokalay@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

RealPlayer…wow, that takes me back.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I remember when XMLHttp first came out, such a game changer.