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submitted 6 months ago by tkk13909@sopuli.xyz to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Does having an AirBNB setup make someone deserving of the guillotine or does that only apply to owners of multiple houses? What about apartments?

Please explain your reasoning as well.

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[-] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

there absolutely should be a profit for rent. Being a good landlord is work, work should be compensated. Taking the risk of ownership (low though it might be) should be compensated.

The issue isn't profit. The issue is a) artificial lack of supply driving up prices b) greed and exploitation of basic needs.

In some countries, like some of the USA, you get clean drinking water pumped into your house for your toilets. However you do the math a) people need to work on the system to keep it working and they should get paid a living wage b) water is a need even more than housing. We pay for water, and people make profit on it. How you pay for it - taxes, city rates, privately - whatever, you pay for it.

that isn't the issue, just like paying rent isn't the issue. it's the amount which is.

the solution is simple and already exists: universal basic income, and make basic needs like water and rent limited by this amount.

[-] kakes@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

Pay and profit are not the same thing, though. A landlord can be compensated for work without making a profit.

Agreed on UBI though.

[-] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

you should be paid enough to make a profit. profit = money left over from being paid after expenses.

If you spend some time - any time - you should be compensated an amount that allows you to do things you actually want to do.

I'm not sure you knew what the word "profit" means, but hopefully you do now, or can find a better way to express what you mean.

[-] kakes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Compensation for work - even if that work is performed by the owner - is an expense, not profit.

[-] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago

Tap water is not really a for-profit enterprise. Even Metropolitan Water District of Southern California, though there are some well paid lawyers and engineers on staff, has to justify their rates and re-invest it all into water supply reliability. No shareholders making a profit on tap water.

UBI would not prevent landlords from profit. If we can afford to spend trillions on concrete bridges, we could build public housing in every city.

[-] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

"shareholders" have nothing to do with any part of this conversation.

UBI has nothing to do with preventing profit. Which is good, because we shouldn't be preventing profit. We should be preventing exploitation.

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