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Wind and solar unbeatable for low cost new electricity::Onshore wind and solar photovoltaic technologies have maintained their position as the lowest cost form of new electricity generation, despite global supply

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[–] eleitl@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except when it's dark and/or windstill. MWh and TWh scale storage is the opposite of inexpensive.

[–] WagnasT@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 1 year ago

This is exactly what we need to focus on, driving down the costs of storage. Personally i'm a fan of molten salt storage placed at retired coal plant turbines, compressed CO2 seems like a solid bet as well. If flow batteries get their kinks worked out they can be quite cost competitive.

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, and :
What are the real costs before subsidies ?
What are the real cost of climate damage we try to mitigate - - which is the basis for subsidies ?

[–] eleitl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] A_A@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most interesting indeed.
So the cost of energy is a complex topic and this guy has studied many aspects of that.

Amongst other things he wrote :
Morgan, Tim (2013). Life After Growth. Petersfield, UK: Harriman House. ISBN 9780857193391

He discusses the energy cost of energy or : Energy return on investment

He gives an estimate of $130 trillion usd for the global cost of energy transition with a link to the source ... I don't understand how this estimate is made though.